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Genz Benz Streamliner Pt 7.....

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#981
maybe after years and years of solid state hi-fi marvels, tweetered cabs and sharp sounding basses, we were somewhat not ready for the glorious return of a true tube tone. I found many users sell the STM because it does not do the same thing that does a LMII or Shuttle etc. Also, I found someone who got accustomed to the "new" tone after 10 or more gigs of so-so. Maybe I have been lucky, I always had in my mind the round burpy fatness of tubes, both with bass and guitars (and harp, and voice...) and discovering this little amp has cured my quest for tone. The more I play it, the more I'm in peace, and so are my bandmates and the (little) crowd.
 
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Agree with above posts. At 1st I thought it was mid-shy, but it's really low-heavy when flat (="relatively" mid-scooped). I have gotten over the irrational desire not to use much eq and also find that lows and 220 mids both at 9 o'clock, gain button disengaged, passive bass, gain and vol knobs at 2 o'clock=flattish and articulate with a satin top.
 
#983
steve_rolfeca said:
I followed Tunaman's advice tonight, and cut the mids back to about 9:30 at 220Hz. With the bass at 9:00 and the treble to taste, it sounded surprisingly quick and modern. But it still had the Streamliner character.

I'd have to see it on a scope to be sure, but it sounds like cutting the low mids as well as the bass, finally tames that over-ambitious low end, and gets you closer to Shuttle territory. Lots of upper mids, and no shortage of definition.

It seems like cutting what I DON'T want, works better than boosting what I DO want with this amp...
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Its so true! +1 to this!

I think I'm going to get a Peavey ISP 3000 8 lb poweramp to go with my Eden Nav so I'll have both the Streamliner & a hi-fi SS amp. Good bye 37 lb poweramp
 
#984
I posted something about this a couple of pages back, but I have found that the Fishman Platinum Pro DI box in front of my Streamliner gives me exactly what I like to hear in almost any situation. The Depth control (variable high pass) and the optical compressor are the perfect compliment to the broad tone controls on the Streamliner. It also has a graphic EQ that can tweek a little more surgically (the EQ reminds me of using the graphic on an Ampeg preamp). With my TB153 3-way cab, I end up running the depth at 12:00 and boosting the bass slider a little. From there, the Streamliner tone controls end up close to 12:00. This really helps control the big B string low frequencies.
 
#987
I am mistified by the comments of the mid section of the Streamliner for those wanting the "flat" sound of some of the other amps. It's like buying a SA2OO and being upset it doesn't sound like and old SVT.

The Streamliner sounds and has controls like the old classic Bass Tube Amp. It does what it was meant to do. If it's not your cup of tea then you purchased one expecting it to be like something other than what it is.

The crazy thing is how the Streamliner sounds is all right here in these pages. It's not like a secret.
 
#989
KJung said:
As we discussed through email, I like your plan. It is a similar logic to what I (and a few others have done). Fill your more classic, tubey needs with one head (for me, that is the Streamliner900, for you, it seems that is the RH750) and then a more neutral 'modern' need with another head (in my case, the F500, in your case, the LMII/III... others use a Shuttle 9 or whatever).

Nice combination that covers just about anything you will need to do. The actual product choice (e.g., for tubey,the Streamliner, a Mesa head, the RH750, the Orange Terror, etc.) is a matter of tonal preference, output need, etc. (similar to the choice of a Shuttle, one of the Markbass heads, one of the GK heads, etc., etc. for a more solid state vibe).
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Thanks Ken, yep, I like the SL900 design but it has to go which is a shame.
 
#990
steve_rolfeca said:
On a scope, the SL has a big low end, a broad valley in the mids, and a mild peak in the treble.

The mid scoop is broader than most amps I've bench-tested, which may be why some don't hear it as such. But the proof is in the fact that you can nearly dime the mids at 600Hz, without it sounding like it's got a clothes-pin on it's nose. Ironically, most amps with active EQ are at the opposite extreme: you can't dime the mids, because it sounds gross.

I suspect that most satisfied SL owners have come to the same conclusion- Use Your Ears. As long as the Streamliner has enough mids and a tight enough low end to suit your cabs, who cares whether the controls are at 8 o'clock or 4 o'clock?
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It's not the position, I get what you mean, it's the fact there isn't much left on the dial.
 
#992
Red Planet said:
I am mistified by the comments of the mid section of the Streamliner for those wanting the "flat" sound of some of the other amps. It's like buying a SA2OO and being upset it doesn't sound like and old SVT.

The Streamliner sounds and has controls like the old classic Bass Tube Amp. It does what it was meant to do. If it's not your cup of tea then you purchased one expecting it to be like something other than what it is.

The crazy thing is how the Streamliner sounds is all right here in these pages. It's not like a secret.
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I like mids! What can I say....it's just how I am. My sound is in mids. I'm not into piercing highs, I like a smooth warm low end and a nice low mid kick.
 
#994
I think I'm going to go purchase a chain saw to mow my grass and then complain about it. :D

If your having to do extrem EQ to get where you want to be with the Streamliner than you have the wrong amp.
 
#995
wateroftyne said:
Me too.. that's why I love the STL so much... more than any other amp I've tried.

Funny old world, innit?
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You and me both. The Streamliner is the amp for me and if I need a change of pace I'll dust off my Shuttle 9.0.

The thing I really like about both of these is what they will do into a single 8 ohm load. Not only do they have the tone I seek but they will smack a cab with tight power.
 
#996
Red Planet said:
I think I'm going to go purchase a chain saw to mow my grass and then complain about it. :D

If your having to do extrem EQ to get where you want to be with the Streamliner than you have the wrong amp.
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Man, it's not your problem...no need to get so defensive haha! Just relax a little.

I am having to almost dime the mids.
 
#998
Owed to the Streamliner. :smug:

How wonderful it is to have a Bass Amp that weighs 6 pounds, sounds like a classic tube amp, and will flat out spank an SVT.

Sometimes I must pinch myself to actually believe that these days I usually carry one small cab and the STLR to most gigs and be able to keep up with the loudest of drummers and guitards.

The added plus of being able to try out different tubes and combinations there of (just like in an old tube amp) is just icing on the cake.

Sometimes I get fed up with all the technology but when it comes to Bass amps I'm on board baby.

I regularly get called a fan boy but hech if the shoe fits whatever.

Thank you Genz Benz for developing this amp and at a price most of us can offord. Thank you for taking this thing all the way to the streets.

Salute!!!!!
 
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