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Genz Streamliner 900 and TC RH450 Comparison

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koobie said:
No doubt that carriers can be quite careless with packages.

I wonder if every Chinese-sourced Genz amp tested after it's landed in the U.S. Not picking on Genz, I assume the answer is yes.
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Once in AZ, they are individually inspected, burned in, the whole bit. I'm sure the shark w/ frickin' lasers helps somehow :D

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#288
12bass said:
Guess we differ... as I don't consider the prospect of replacing a defective tube to be much of an inconvenience. Then again, I'm generally chomping at the bit to pop the lid off of a new piece of gear and see what's inside.... :smug:
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Hmm, well, I guess if the amp were a couple of years old, and I knew the shelf life of tubes, maybe. But something brand new , right out of the box goes defective? i would not feel an obligation to tear the cover off and start mucking about to see what was wrong, I would just demand a replacement. It might also void the warranty , in some cases. I don't ever remember reading in any manual of any new piece of electronics where it encouraged the user to do this.
 
#289
jnewmark said:
But something brand new , right out of the box goes defective? i would not feel an obligation to tear the cover off and start mucking about to see what was wrong, I would just demand a replacement. It might also void the warranty , in some cases. I don't ever remember reading in any manual of any new piece of electronics where it encouraged the user to do this.
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All very true, but in this case, it would be a well qualified and well known customer being managed and authorized directly by top management in the company. Ken willing, this would not have been an issue for GB at all. That said, I also can't fault Ken for not wishing to do it, either (more to your point.)
 
#290
Seems to me that Ken had bad luck and was promptly taken care of both by his dealer and the manufacturer (in marked contrast to some other brands/companies out there). Others have gotten their heads and are happily playing away. Don't see much of a downside here for the consumer other than some dashed expectations/reality check and a bit of inconvenience.
 
#291
OK- went through both of Ken's amps.

* Ken's SECOND amp, made noise....sounded like the ocean. This amp had a bad tube ...V3. Pinging it with your fingernail would get the sound to come and go....and would get it to squeal.

* Ken's first amp- This amp is the one in his clips....worked for 6 hours or so for Ken, then it went dead. This failure was NOT due to a tube. We are currently tracking down the root cause. Please stay tuned.
 
#292
Thanks for the update, hasbeen.

jnewmark said:
Hmm, well, I guess if the amp were a couple of years old, and I knew the shelf life of tubes, maybe. But something brand new , right out of the box goes defective? i would not feel an obligation to tear the cover off and start mucking about to see what was wrong, I would just demand a replacement. It might also void the warranty , in some cases. I don't ever remember reading in any manual of any new piece of electronics where it encouraged the user to do this.
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Because tubes have a finite lifespan, amplifiers with tubes inside are generally expected to be serviced periodically by end users.
 
#293
hasbeen said:
OK- went through both of Ken's amps.

* Ken's SECOND amp, made noise....sounded like the ocean. This amp had a bad tube ...V3. Pinging it with your fingernail would get the sound to come and go....and would get it to squeal.

* Ken's first amp- This amp is the one in his clips....worked for 6 hours or so for Ken, then it went dead. This failure was NOT due to a tube. We are currently tracking down the root cause. Please stay tuned.
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Thanks Roger!

Going above and beyond, as always.

:D

God Bless, Ray
 
#294
12bass said:
Thanks for the update, hasbeen.



Because tubes have a finite lifespan, amplifiers with tubes inside are generally expected to be serviced periodically by end users.
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As i alluded to in my first sentence, But, right out of the box ? I guess we'll have to agree to disagree on this one.
 
#295
Well Your bass was in tune when you bought it :confused:.
You got it home and its out of tune.. Better not mess with it.. Better bring it back to the store for repair and re-tune.
:D:D:D
Im just messing with ya.


Tubes have prongs on them so they can be taken out, replaced etc..

jnewmark said:
Hmm, well, I guess if the amp were a couple of years old, and I knew the shelf life of tubes, maybe. But something brand new , right out of the box goes defective? i would not feel an obligation to tear the cover off and start mucking about to see what was wrong, I would just demand a replacement. It might also void the warranty , in some cases. I don't ever remember reading in any manual of any new piece of electronics where it encouraged the user to do this.
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#296
LilRay said:
Hey where are the TC RH450's made?:ninja: Maybe we can turn this comparison thread from a turd in to a big honkin' pile of Elephant poo.:hiding:
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Totally off topic but this reminded me of a story my father told me about when I was 5 and he took me to the circus. I complained I couldn't see and took off. He found me standing on a little hill covered in hay watching the clowns...that little hill covered in hay was a big honkin' pile of Elephant poo.
 
#297
svtb15 said:
Well Your bass was in tune when you bought it :confused:.
You got it home and its out of tune.. Better not mess with it.. Better bring it back to the store for repair and re-tune.
:D:D:D
Im just messing with ya.


Tubes have prongs on them so they can be taken out, replaced etc..
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Actually, it was in tune, as I bought it at a local music store, and had the tech set it up and tuned for me. Still, I would'nt have to tear it apart to tune it now, would I? I'm aware that tubes have prongs and can be replaced, just don't think it's my lookout to do it when it's defective right out of the box, and paid close to $1,000 for it. Maybe I'm just weird? :cool:
 
#298
mongo2 said:
Totally off topic but this reminded me of a story my father told me about when I was 5 and he took me to the circus. I complained I couldn't see and took off. He found me standing on a little hill covered in hay watching the clowns...that little hill covered in hay was a big honkin' pile of Elephant poo.
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ROFL!!!!!!!:D:D:D:D

Hey Dad, I found a great spot, but man these clowns need to take a bath....They STINK!:ninja:

:D

God Bless, Ray
 
#299
hasbeen said:
OK- went through both of Ken's amps.

* Ken's SECOND amp, made noise....sounded like the ocean. This amp had a bad tube ...V3. Pinging it with your fingernail would get the sound to come and go....and would get it to squeal.

* Ken's first amp- This amp is the one in his clips....worked for 6 hours or so for Ken, then it went dead. This failure was NOT due to a tube. We are currently tracking down the root cause. Please stay tuned.
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You guys at Genz-Benz are the absolute BEST! Talk about incredible service and communication. I could not be more impressed. Thanks.

A Streamliner Demo and purchase is highly probable in my near future. That simple. Glitches happen. Once gear passes infant mortality, it is usually bullet proof for years and years.
 
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