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GenzBenz Streamliner Pt 8...

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#741
Well there really should have been some thought put into building a coffee maker into the Streamliner. Then it would be the Superliner. :smug:

As far as Headphones go it's best to plug them into an SVT.:eek::D
 
#744
Here is how I get around some of the issues mentioned in previous posts with my practice rig.

I have this set up at all times in my bass space. DT990 headphones (wonderful!), Cafe Walter headphone amp, and a mono to stereo cable that puts my metronome into both channels of the stereo aux input of the Cafe Walter (with separate volume control) I use the aux input for my iPod if I have a tune I need to learn with no chart.

Amazing sound, always there, and not a ton of money, given the quality of the sound.

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#745
I will say BE cabs are real nice.. I used them years ago ( back in the early 80s) just loved them.
I should get myself a single BE 12 one day for small gigs...

Question.. You said you have the GS112s and the BE S115.
How do they compare in bass output and overall VOL...
I asked that same question numerous times the past few years and no one was able to answer that ... Thanks



bassgod0dmw said:
I had my second gig with the Bag End S15D's. Those cabs absolutely smoke! I ran:

Sadowsky NYC PJ5 > Korg Pitchblack > STL 900 > Bag End S15D & S15XD

They really cut through the mix very well, yet still retain a good amount of low end. I was running the Streamliner bass control around 9-9:30 with my GS112s, but I'm able to add in a little more to the tune of 10-11:00 without getting boomy. Adding it in just makes my tone hit a little harder.

I wasn't sure how I'd like the tweeter always being on with the S15XD, but I really didn't notice it at all. No harsh, shrill sounds at all.

I HIGHLY recommend these cabs with the Streamliner. Once I put my house back together I'm going to try them out with my Walkabout...then A/B both heads (STL 900, Walkabout) with both sets of cabs (Aggie GS112's & Bag Ends) to see how they compare. I'll be doing some recording next week and I'd like to mic a cab and run a DI, so I need to see what I want to use.
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#746
So I took my Streamliner to a larger than normal (for me) gig Friday night. Up until then all my gigging has been with one HT112ER cab. I took two cabs.

We were playing pretty loud and I was able to throttle her out. Dear God it was like a hammer slamming. The tone was solid as a rock with no boom and I was on a raised wooden stage.

Saturday night I went back to my one cab setup for a smaller gig.
 
#747
svtb15 said:
Question.. You said you have the GS112s and the BE S115.How do they compare in bass output and overall VOL...I asked that same question numerous times the past few years and no one was able to answer that ... Thanks
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I think the BE's are a little louder with the same settings on the amp and bass. I haven't compared them head to head in the same environment yet. I can certainly hear myself better with the BE's, but that may just be the way they are tuned vs. the Aggies. I do assume since the BE's are 103db vs the 95lb of the Aggies...plus the 15" vs 12" that they will be louder.

As for bass output, I was pleasantly surprised. I like a lot of low end, to the point where I usually boost my bass controls slightly on both my amp and my bass. Playing with the GS112's, I had to roll back the bass on STL to about 9:00-9:30. Anything over that was a little flubby sounding and got lost in the mix. I had a good amount of low end still coming through though.

With the BE's and STL on the same settings (for the Aggies) I felt the bass was lacking, so I turned it up to about 10:00-10:30 which brought me right back into the same territory but with a fuller sound probably due to the punching mids. My solo tone was great, but it really shined in the mix. I cut through like nobody's business, yet still retained a very nice amount of low end. No flub, just defined tightness. They handled my low B great as well.

I was unsure about getting the BE's in the first place. I read all of the threads on poor port design and lacking low end, but I also read all of the stories about them sounding great. I couldn't pass them up for the price, and I'm glad I didn't.
 
#748
Thank you.... Exactly what i was wanting to know... I appreciate your time...

bassgod0dmw said:
I think the BE's are a little louder with the same settings on the amp and bass. I haven't compared them head to head in the same environment yet. I can certainly hear myself better with the BE's, but that may just be the way they are tuned vs. the Aggies. I do assume since the BE's are 103db vs the 95lb of the Aggies...plus the 15" vs 12" that they will be louder.

As for bass output, I was pleasantly surprised. I like a lot of low end, to the point where I usually boost my bass controls slightly on both my amp and my bass. Playing with the GS112's, I had to roll back the bass on STL to about 9:00-9:30. Anything over that was a little flubby sounding and got lost in the mix. I had a good amount of low end still coming through though.

With the BE's and STL on the same settings (for the Aggies) I felt the bass was lacking, so I turned it up to about 10:00-10:30 which brought me right back into the same territory but with a fuller sound probably due to the punching mids. My solo tone was great, but it really shined in the mix. I cut through like nobody's business, yet still retained a very nice amount of low end. No flub, just defined tightness. They handled my low B great as well.

I was unsure about getting the BE's in the first place. I read all of the threads on poor port design and lacking low end, but I also read all of the stories about them sounding great. I couldn't pass them up for the price, and I'm glad I didn't.
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#749
Well, it looks like I might be joining this group in the next few days with a Streamliner 900. An opportunity has presented itself and while I have consistantly not been a 'tube' guy' I have read so much about the sound both ways that I feel that I must give this one a go. The few videos that I have heard do not support the 'muddy' moniker I have read in some places and that suits me. Looking forward to trying it with my Avatar B210 and especially my Berg HS410, which from what I have been reading may be a well suited pairing with this head.
 
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nervous said:
Well, it looks like I might be joining this group in the next few days with a Streamliner 900. An opportunity has presented itself and while I have consistantly not been a 'tube' guy' I have read so much about the sound both ways that I feel that I must give this one a go. The few videos that I have heard do not support the 'muddy' moniker I have read in some places and that suits me. Looking forward to trying it with my Avatar B210 and especially my Berg HS410, which from what I have been reading may be a well suited pairing with this head.
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If those cabs are light in the low end, hi-fi, gritty, trebly cabs you'll definitely be all set, if not its a toss up. Congrats!
 
#753
Tunaman said:
If those cabs are light in the low end, hi-fi, gritty, trebly cabs you'll definitely be all set, if not its a toss up. Congrats!
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Hmm, well I can say with certainty they are designed to have a bit of an 'attenuated' low end so score one. with the horn in play it can be more trebly than I sometimes like, score two. Hi-fi and gritty I cannot attest to. I am not much of a 'grit' guy but have always been a bit hi-fi leaning so it will be interesting.
 
#757
So the Genz Benz Streamliner & Shuttlemax amps have a poweramp in \ receive jack in the back

If I plug in a different preamp... a preamp pedal etc, I would bypass the EQ & basically use the poweramp section right?

Lets say I have the Streamliner... could I use the "Preamp out \ Send" & plug it into a Shuttlemax 9.2 "Poweramp in \ receive" & have 1800 watts?

With the 2 Epifani cabs at 5.3 ohms & 750 watts each, I can't push both cabs with 1 amp, but I could doing it this way? I also could go with either the Streamliner or Shuttlemax tone... would they be in phase, no lag?
:help:
 
#758
Tunaman said:
So the Genz Benz Streamliner & Shuttlemax amps have a poweramp in \ receive jack in the back

If I plug in a different preamp... a preamp pedal etc, I would bypass the EQ & basically use the poweramp section right?
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Correct, provided your preamp/pedal can drive a +4dBu line level power amp.

Tunaman said:
Lets say I have the Streamliner... could I use the "Preamp out \ Send" & plug it into a Shuttlemax 9.2 "Poweramp in \ receive" & have 1800 watts?
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Yes, correct.

Tunaman said:
With the 2 Epifani cabs at 5.3 ohms & 750 watts each, I can't push both cabs with 1 amp, but I could doing it this way? I also could go with either the Streamliner or Shuttlemax tone... would they be in phase, no lag?
:help:
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Yes, correct. Phase/polarity will be correct, lag (or assuming you mean latency) is not an issue with analog gear.
 
#759
Thats so awesome, I dont even know where to start

The Sansamp PBDDI has a hot output & a regular output so I'll be good

The Streamliner tube warmth may be too much for people on some occasions... fine, grab the preamp of your choice & rock some hi-fi tones. Come on people? Thats awesome!

I'm crazy enough to chain those bastards together. Shuttlemax 9.2 + Streamliner 900 into (2) 750w 5.3 ohm Epifani 310s? NICE !
 
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