Genzler Amplification Club

[64jazzbass]

Just curious, has anyone tried the Magellan 800 with an Audiokinesis Hathor 1203? Maybe Tom Bowlus can weigh in on this. A brief tonal description would be appreciated. Thx.

 

[unbridled]

What's wrong with good, old, sticky-backed Velcro for folks wanting to join their 350 heads to cabinets? Might have to take the feet off of the head for it to join well, but it's a heckuva lot easier to apply and won't leave permanent holes.

 

[Erik Turkman]

Yes, I've used mine as a di into a mixer for silent practices.

Great. Thanks for the input.

 

[unbridled]

With the mg800 and mg350, does the volume control on the clean channel have any effects other than volume? Any increased dirt or harmonics or ???

Thanks!

Not that I can tell. The pre gain control *might* do something like that, but I don't think that's the purpose of it.

 

[Joeykun]

Going a little old school/new school tonight for a 2.67ohm powerhouse!

 

[S-Bigbottom]

I think I saw somewhere that the MG350 head can run safely without any speaker cabinets plugged in, for instance if using it as a DI only. Is that correct? I tried searching for this topic, but I must not have used the right search terms.

Though mine is the 800 it funktions the same.
As a DI only for inears playing on stage.

You can send your signal Pre Eq so it is just clean your bass like using a standalone DI Box or send your signal Post Eq where the tone controls effect your sound. The later can be a good thing to put more tone to the PA or depending on your knobs a bad thing messing up the sound to the PA. Use Post with discretion.

For headphone practice at home.

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Plug the computer's Headphones Out into the Magellan's Aux IN to send your audio, your earphones into the Headphones Jack on the Magellan, bass in the front as usual and there is no need for a mixer.

 

[Modulus 96]

Re my mixer comment, that was for silent practices with a band. Drummer had an electronic kit.

I do like the aux in. Previously I used a 4 channel behringer to get a mix of a cover song and bass together, either for headphones or low volume personal practice. Haven't needed the little mixer for a while now. Probably don't need it anymore.

 

[Tdub77]

On the subject of practice etc, do any of you guys record yourselves against a backing track? If so, what do you use and how do you mix in your bass line vs the one on the track?
Thanks, I'm skilled with computers but a bit of a novice when it comes to home recording so any and all suggestions more than welcome...

 

[Joeykun]

Man, this rig is crazy good. Just finished soundcheck and it sounds amazing. Jeff suggested I turn the tweeter off on the Uber 210 and that was a good call. Should be a fun night of tone heaven.... Genzler style!!!

 

[s0707]

On the subject of practice etc, do any of you guys record yourselves against a backing track? If so, what do you use and how do you mix in your bass line vs the one on the track?
Thanks, I'm skilled with computers but a bit of a novice when it comes to home recording so any and all suggestions more than welcome...

You can do it with an audio interface for your computer and any software DAW (pro tools, ableton live, etc).

Briefly: You first import the backing music into a DAW track, then add another track to record your bass. When you’re recording, you will have armed/enabled your bass track for recording, and any of the unarmed tracks that are also unmuted will play back (i.e. your backing music track). You may need to enable input echo in your bass track to hear it if the audio interface doesn’t directly connect input to output. I imagine there are tons of YouTube videos on how to record for specific DAWs.

 

[Nightman]

Thanks all for the feedback. Feeling like I was worried about nothing and the 350 mini stack should be fine for my outdoor gig. Nightman; Do report in on the house party please. Always good to hear about how things went with my new equipment

The 350 Combo stacked on top a BA12-3 worked well for our outside gig last night. Because of the small stage built for the band the drummer complained he couldn’t ‘feel’ the music, so I turned the BA10 toward him. All in all it worked fine for me, but I would not have attempted this without the BA12-3.

 

[Holdsg]

will be bringing the 410 out of storage tonight at a gig at the venerable Canyon Club in Agoura Hills.
pretty big room, excellent sound system, but still feel like bringing the big gun.

Pics

 

[Loring]

Today’s office - the Rock Pile

 

[dwellers]

Hello brothers and sisters in bottom...

I currently own a Genzler 800 and 2 x 12-3 cabinets. Love the rig doesn't begin to describe my happiness with this setup. I also have a crappy little Fender Rumble 30 that stays home for quick practice, trying new stuff etc. It doesn't leave the house except for acoustic rehearsals.

Anyway, I am looking for a very small, lightweight portable rig that can provide enough bottom for a quiet church (synagogue actually) setting. Now, of course I'm familiar with the 350 combo but I don't want to spend $1000. I also know that I could pick up a 110 cabinet for $600 that would pair nicely with my 800 and/or my 2 x 12-3 stack. But, what I really want to do is carry my bass in one hand and my amp/combo in the other.

So, if I don't go Genzler for this purchase, and I want to keep things under $400, what would you all suggest? Would love to hear from fellow Genzler devotees who have experience with a small inexpensive, lightweight but good (doesn't need to be great) sounding rig. The current considerations are:

Blackstar Unity 120
Peavey 150
Ampeg BA112
TC Electronic BG250-112
Fender Rumble 100

All of these have a single 12 which seems a sweet spot of size/weight to bottom end.

Am I a dope for not just adding the Genzler 10-2? Or is a reasonably priced combo a good addition to the arsenal in any case?

Thanks for your informed and educated opinions!

--dwellers

PS...noting that 10-2s are out of stock everywhere including the Genzler website. Anything up with that?

 

[Loring]

Maybe a used Phil jones

 

[DrSteve]

The 350 Combo stacked on top a BA12-3 worked well for our outside gig last night. Because of the small stage built for the band the drummer complained he couldn’t ‘feel’ the music, so I turned the BA10 toward him. All in all it worked fine for me, but I would not have attempted this without the BA12-3.

Hey Nightman;

Thanks for the info on your outdoor gig. Hope you enjoyed it.
Your review convinced me to pull the trigger on another BA10-2 (floor model, so price was decent). I know you used the BA12-3 with the combo, but 3 BA10-2s with the 350 amp should provide enough headroom to pull this off.

Could have saved myself some cash if the BL would let me DI through the PA. But we all have our issues.

Now I just need to make sure I hit the Ohm switch when I plug in the 3rd cab.

 

[unbridled]

Hello brothers and sisters in bottom...

I currently own a Genzler 800 and 2 x 12-3 cabinets. Love the rig doesn't begin to describe my happiness with this setup. I also have a crappy little Fender Rumble 30 that stays home for quick practice, trying new stuff etc. It doesn't leave the house except for acoustic rehearsals.

Anyway, I am looking for a very small, lightweight portable rig that can provide enough bottom for a quiet church (synagogue actually) setting. Now, of course I'm familiar with the 350 combo but I don't want to spend $1000. I also know that I could pick up a 110 cabinet for $600 that would pair nicely with my 800 and/or my 2 x 12-3 stack. But, what I really want to do is carry my bass in one hand and my amp/combo in the other.

So, if I don't go Genzler for this purchase, and I want to keep things under $400, what would you all suggest? Would love to hear from fellow Genzler devotees who have experience with a small inexpensive, lightweight but good (doesn't need to be great) sounding rig. The current considerations are:

Blackstar Unity 120
Peavey 150
Ampeg BA112
TC Electronic BG250-112
Fender Rumble 100

All of these have a single 12 which seems a sweet spot of size/weight to bottom end.

Am I a dope for not just adding the Genzler 10-2? Or is a reasonably priced combo a good addition to the arsenal in any case?

Thanks for your informed and educated opinions!

--dwellers

PS...noting that 10-2s are out of stock everywhere including the Genzler website. Anything up with that?

Of those you listed, I'd say the TC or Ampeg.

 

[Jeff Genzler]

Hello brothers and sisters in bottom...

I currently own a Genzler 800 and 2 x 12-3 cabinets. Love the rig doesn't begin to describe my happiness with this setup. I also have a crappy little Fender Rumble 30 that stays home for quick practice, trying new stuff etc. It doesn't leave the house except for acoustic rehearsals.

Anyway, I am looking for a very small, lightweight portable rig that can provide enough bottom for a quiet church (synagogue actually) setting. Now, of course I'm familiar with the 350 combo but I don't want to spend $1000. I also know that I could pick up a 110 cabinet for $600 that would pair nicely with my 800 and/or my 2 x 12-3 stack. But, what I really want to do is carry my bass in one hand and my amp/combo in the other.

So, if I don't go Genzler for this purchase, and I want to keep things under $400, what would you all suggest? Would love to hear from fellow Genzler devotees who have experience with a small inexpensive, lightweight but good (doesn't need to be great) sounding rig. The current considerations are:

Blackstar Unity 120
Peavey 150
Ampeg BA112
TC Electronic BG250-112
Fender Rumble 100

All of these have a single 12 which seems a sweet spot of size/weight to bottom end.

Am I a dope for not just adding the Genzler 10-2? Or is a reasonably priced combo a good addition to the arsenal in any case?

Thanks for your informed and educated opinions!

--dwellers

PS...noting that 10-2s are out of stock everywhere including the Genzler website. Anything up with that?

@dwellers, sorry we don't have a specific product that fits the budget your considering but if you do consider the BA10-2 there are plenty available at dealers. We'll be in stock again in a couple of weeks. We do sell out a little quicker than production schedule allows. Nothing suspicious. PM me if you'd like a few dealer recommendations.

 

[Djadja]

Hello brothers and sisters in bottom...

I currently own a Genzler 800 and 2 x 12-3 cabinets. Love the rig doesn't begin to describe my happiness with this setup. I also have a crappy little Fender Rumble 30 that stays home for quick practice, trying new stuff etc. It doesn't leave the house except for acoustic rehearsals.

Anyway, I am looking for a very small, lightweight portable rig that can provide enough bottom for a quiet church (synagogue actually) setting. Now, of course I'm familiar with the 350 combo but I don't want to spend $1000. I also know that I could pick up a 110 cabinet for $600 that would pair nicely with my 800 and/or my 2 x 12-3 stack. But, what I really want to do is carry my bass in one hand and my amp/combo in the other.

So, if I don't go Genzler for this purchase, and I want to keep things under $400, what would you all suggest? Would love to hear from fellow Genzler devotees who have experience with a small inexpensive, lightweight but good (doesn't need to be great) sounding rig. The current considerations are:

Blackstar Unity 120
Peavey 150
Ampeg BA112
TC Electronic BG250-112
Fender Rumble 100

All of these have a single 12 which seems a sweet spot of size/weight to bottom end.

Am I a dope for not just adding the Genzler 10-2? Or is a reasonably priced combo a good addition to the arsenal in any case?

Thanks for your informed and educated opinions!

--dwellers

PS...noting that 10-2s are out of stock everywhere including the Genzler website. Anything up with that?

I get the finances part... but over a couple of years $200 isn’t very much. And the 10-2 would give you multiple cool options - a single 10-2, single 12-3, 10-2 +12-3, 2 12-3’s, 2 12-03’s + 10-2. And then at some time in the future you could add a 350 and cradle or not.

 

[berman3313]

Now, of course I'm familiar with the 350 combo but I don't want to spend $1000

Don't want to appear snarky, but if you are familiar with the 350 - you'll find a way to get one. I have an 800 - with a larger cab - but as you can see from the testimony here (I also sent you a PM with my experiences with some other amps mentioned here) the 350 combo is so light/versatile and great sounding, that it is worth waiting, scrounging, rummage saleing to get one. @Nightman I think, coined the term "little monster" - and far from being a petulant child which the name might suggest, this thing fights WAY above its weight and power class. You won't regret it.