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Genzler Amplification Club

#5,804
dwellers said:
Hello brothers and sisters in bottom...

I currently own a Genzler 800 and 2 x 12-3 cabinets. Love the rig doesn't begin to describe my happiness with this setup. I also have a crappy little Fender Rumble 30 that stays home for quick practice, trying new stuff etc. It doesn't leave the house except for acoustic rehearsals.

Anyway, I am looking for a very small, lightweight portable rig that can provide enough bottom for a quiet church (synagogue actually) setting. Now, of course I'm familiar with the 350 combo but I don't want to spend $1000. I also know that I could pick up a 110 cabinet for $600 that would pair nicely with my 800 and/or my 2 x 12-3 stack. But, what I really want to do is carry my bass in one hand and my amp/combo in the other.

So, if I don't go Genzler for this purchase, and I want to keep things under $400, what would you all suggest? Would love to hear from fellow Genzler devotees who have experience with a small inexpensive, lightweight but good (doesn't need to be great) sounding rig. The current considerations are:

Blackstar Unity 120
Peavey 150
Ampeg BA112
TC Electronic BG250-112
Fender Rumble 100

All of these have a single 12 which seems a sweet spot of size/weight to bottom end.

Am I a dope for not just adding the Genzler 10-2? Or is a reasonably priced combo a good addition to the arsenal in any case?

Thanks for your informed and educated opinions!

--dwellers

PS...noting that 10-2s are out of stock everywhere including the Genzler website. Anything up with that?
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Physically, one of your 12-3s isn't that much larger than any of the combos you listed. It IS heavier, but not enough to make it so you can't handle it.

If it was me, I'd use your current rig. If you have the bag for the 800 and a gig bag for your bass, you can pack it in one trip. An 800-watt head seems like overkill, but these amps sound the same at low volumes. Run your rig until you save up for what you really want.
 
#5,807
I have been using the 10-2 combo (superb!) since it first came out but the "High-Boy" has my interest for old-school bass guitar. When will we get more info? There is nothing on the website as yet.

Plenty of Genzler love here!

Edit: there is now some info on Facebook. I'm in as soon as the cabs hit the UK. :-)
 
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#5,808
dwellers said:
Hello brothers and sisters in bottom...

I currently own a Genzler 800 and 2 x 12-3 cabinets. Love the rig doesn't begin to describe my happiness with this setup. I also have a crappy little Fender Rumble 30 that stays home for quick practice, trying new stuff etc. It doesn't leave the house except for acoustic rehearsals.

Anyway, I am looking for a very small, lightweight portable rig that can provide enough bottom for a quiet church (synagogue actually) setting. Now, of course I'm familiar with the 350 combo but I don't want to spend $1000. I also know that I could pick up a 110 cabinet for $600 that would pair nicely with my 800 and/or my 2 x 12-3 stack. But, what I really want to do is carry my bass in one hand and my amp/combo in the other.

So, if I don't go Genzler for this purchase, and I want to keep things under $400, what would you all suggest? Would love to hear from fellow Genzler devotees who have experience with a small inexpensive, lightweight but good (doesn't need to be great) sounding rig. The current considerations are:

Blackstar Unity 120
Peavey 150
Ampeg BA112
TC Electronic BG250-112
Fender Rumble 100

All of these have a single 12 which seems a sweet spot of size/weight to bottom end.

Am I a dope for not just adding the Genzler 10-2? Or is a reasonably priced combo a good addition to the arsenal in any case?

Thanks for your informed and educated opinions!

--dwellers

PS...noting that 10-2s are out of stock everywhere including the Genzler website. Anything up with that?
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I know you don’t want to spend $1K but the MG350 Combo is the loudest, best sounding one hand grab there is. I have used it with a jazz quartet outside, I have used it in a 600 seat theatre for a musical with horns and guitars and I nor the audience have never been disappointed.

The new “high boy” 12” is interesting as well.
 
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#5,810
Joeykun said:
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The secret is out. When I was debating a different rig, adding another BA10-2, etc., Jeff PM’ed me about this and swore me to secrecy. I’m torn. I love my little 110 combo, but it could use just a little help for outdoor gigs - just for a little more fullness and head room. Another BA10-2 makes sense for a mini stack, and I do like 10’s. On the other hand, a single 12 might give me that little extra I’m looking for, and keep it to a “one trip” load in. Not sure what to do.
 
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SteveC said:
The secret is out. When I was debating a different rig, adding another BA10-2, etc., Jeff PM’ed me about this and swore me to secrecy. I’m torn. I love my little 110 combo, but it could use just a little help for outdoor gigs - just for a little more fullness and head room. Another BA10-2 makes sense for a mini stack, and I do like 10’s. On the other hand, a single 12 might give me that little extra I’m looking for, and keep it to a “one trip” load in. Not sure what to do.
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Adding a BA10-2 will get you to 4ohms and 350 watts. That should work. But the MG-12T-V “Tall Boy” most certainly is something to consider!!! Oh, and there is an optional MG-12T-V cab too just to push you over the edge!!
 
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Thanks for the interest and general comments. To answer a few questions above ---- complete info will be on our website later today. Those who are on our mailing list do get a sneak peek a day ahead getting info up on our website.

@TheBass --- I don't have a specific date for stock in Europe but we're making that happen now. Send me a PM if you'd like to be kept in the loop a little more on that.

@SteveC ---- Thanks for keeping the lid on during our discussions. I gotta say, that this new MG-12T-V cab is not a replacement for the BA10-2 whatsoever, as there are players that love 10" and 12"s. And these 2 cabs are so different. I think in your case, if you like everything that the current MG350-BA10-COMBO provides, adding another BA10-2 seems like the way to go, and what I'd recommend.
As I've stated before about the Bass Array concept ---- with standard cabs you get the x2 coupling when you run 2 cabs together. With the Bass Array cab design it is more like x3 when you run 2 cabs. There is just that much more projection on top of the coupling of the 10" woofers.

With the new MG "high-boy" cab, it is a much throatier tone, bigger tonal foot print (and size) as it is a 12" vs the BA10-2 10" woofer. If I played more rock and louder bands and wanted a 1 cab combo, I'd consider the new MG-12T-V for that use.

Hope all of this is helpful.

Regards,

Jeff
 
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#5,817
Sounds great. Now I’m torn.

Get another BA10-2 for a mini stack...

Get a Tall Boy and put my 350 on that - I assume the mounting bracket will work on either cab - and sell the BA10-2 to recoup some cost...

Keep my MG350 combo and just put it on top of the 112 for extra oomph when needed.

Jeff, any thoughts on how these 2 cabs will work together?
 
#5,818
SteveC said:
Sounds great. Now I’m torn.

Get another BA10-2 for a mini stack...

Get a Tall Boy and put my 350 on that - I assume the mounting bracket will work on either cab - and sell the BA10-2 to recoup some cost...

Keep my MG350 combo and just put it on top of the 112 for extra oomph when needed.

Jeff, any thoughts on how these 2 cabs will work together?
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Steve, yes you could easily do this. I tried it like this and the really nice part is that placing the BA10-2 on top of the MG-12T-V puts that line array pointed right towards you.
I'd recommend turning the tweeter off in the MG-12 cab, but combining the 2 when needed, would give you some extra oomph when you want it. And you could transfer the Cradle between cabs depending upon what combo/combination you want to take.
Lots of flexibility if that is what you're looking to achieve.
 
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Thanks for the insight, Jeff. The mini stack of BA10-2’s is what I was thinking, but I also like the more “traditional” voicing of the MG cab.

By itself, a 12 is going to be a little more full than the 10 I assume, even at 175 watts. I still like the idea of a one cab combo.
 

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