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#5,781
Hi folks, new mg800 owner here again... only had one band practice so far, but, hoping my class D amp GAS has been satisfied! Time will tell. (If all goes well, may be a mg350 in the future, and a BA cab... we shall see!)

My question, likely for Jeff:

The owner's manual says that Contour B cuts some high mids. What frequencies are we talking here? It sounds like the Drive channel and Contour B are two different ways to do fairly similar things.

(Manual says the Drive channel cuts a tiny bit of lows, and some highes; Contour B cuts some lows and some high-mids and highs. EDIT: Contour B also boosts low mids.)

Thanks! Will save other two questions until this answered. ;)
 
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dwellers said:
Hello brothers and sisters in bottom...

I currently own a Genzler 800 and 2 x 12-3 cabinets. Love the rig doesn't begin to describe my happiness with this setup. I also have a crappy little Fender Rumble 30 that stays home for quick practice, trying new stuff etc. It doesn't leave the house except for acoustic rehearsals.

Anyway, I am looking for a very small, lightweight portable rig that can provide enough bottom for a quiet church (synagogue actually) setting. Now, of course I'm familiar with the 350 combo but I don't want to spend $1000. I also know that I could pick up a 110 cabinet for $600 that would pair nicely with my 800 and/or my 2 x 12-3 stack. But, what I really want to do is carry my bass in one hand and my amp/combo in the other.

So, if I don't go Genzler for this purchase, and I want to keep things under $400, what would you all suggest? Would love to hear from fellow Genzler devotees who have experience with a small inexpensive, lightweight but good (doesn't need to be great) sounding rig. The current considerations are:

Blackstar Unity 120
Peavey 150
Ampeg BA112
TC Electronic BG250-112
Fender Rumble 100

All of these have a single 12 which seems a sweet spot of size/weight to bottom end.

Am I a dope for not just adding the Genzler 10-2? Or is a reasonably priced combo a good addition to the arsenal in any case?

Thanks for your informed and educated opinions!

--dwellers
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revroy said:
I get the finances part... but over a couple of years $200 isn’t very much. And the 10-2 would give you multiple cool options - a single 10-2, single 12-3, 10-2 +12-3, 2 12-3’s, 2 12-03’s + 10-2. And then at some time in the future you could add a 350 and cradle or not.
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I'm liking this thinking...best thing would be to find a good used 10-2. I also like the idea of a small 10-2 stack in the future. I also like the 210 and the 410. OK damn it, I'll just buy everything Jeff sells. That will cover it all. :)
 
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64jazzbass said:
Just curious, has anyone tried the Magellan 800 with an Audiokinesis Hathor 1203? Maybe Tom Bowlus can weigh in on this. A brief tonal description would be appreciated. Thx.
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Yessir! It's a great match, and each piece allows the other to "do its thing" and shine. The 1203 actually has more high end clarity than the BA12-3 (despite using only one Faital 3FE22) and surprising depth. It is a very balanced, and full-range cab, and of course, the MG-800 is very versatile and does pretty much everything well. The two pair up quite nicely. :thumbsup:
 
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tombowlus said:
Yessir! It's a great match, and each piece allows the other to "do its thing" and shine. The 1203 actually has more high end clarity than the BA12-3 (despite using only one Faital 3FE22) and surprising depth. It is a very balanced, and full-range cab, and of course, the MG-800 is very versatile and does pretty much everything well. The two pair up quite nicely. :thumbsup:
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Thanks Tom!
 
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dwellers said:
I'll just buy everything Jeff sells. That will cover it all. :)
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Well, if doing that doesn't, then nothing will!!

I kinda wish I had known about Genzler before I read about and bought the AER amp three, which is a great little combo,......but I think about what I could have had with the Genzler brand with the AER funds! :meh:
 
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NighthawkGS said:
Hi folks, new mg800 owner here again... only had one band practice so far, but, hoping my class D amp GAS has been satisfied! Time will tell. (If all goes well, may be a mg350 in the future, and a BA cab... we shall see!)

My question, likely for Jeff:

The owner's manual says that Contour B cuts some high mids. What frequencies are we talking here? It sounds like the Drive channel and Contour B are two different ways to do fairly similar things.

(Manual says the Drive channel cuts a tiny bit of lows, and some highes; Contour B cuts some lows and some high-mids and highs.)

Thanks! Will save other two questions until this answered. ;)
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@NighthawkGS, thanks for your purchase of the MG-800. As you experiment with it you'll find a lot of versatility packed into this amp, as it pertains to your questions.
Also about your questions, the DRIVE channel frequency response changes with how much you turn up the GAIN control. This does taper some of the ultra lows to takes away the flubbiness of the overdrive and distortion and also rolls off some of the very top end to reduce the buzziness that could come from overdrive. The frequencies are continually variable and is designed to be very musical in its response. As for the Contour B circuitry, it is even more complex in design as it does several things at once. The main characteristic is the 200 Hz bump in the response curve. There is a gentle roll off of the LF from that point downward and steepens as it gets under 50 Hz. As for the other side of the spectrum after the 200 Hz bump there is a gentle slope to approx 1K ish and then it rolls a little steep and then takes all much more of the ultra top end. The more you turn up this control the more of the "effect" you get, the frequencies to not change.
Now all of this can be altered with use of the EQ network when using either the Contour B or the DRIVE channel.

I hope this info is helpful.
 
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Thanks Jeff! Awesomely detailed reply. Though I am still not sure which high-mids get cut with Contour B?

Liking mg800 very much so far. But can't get excited until it's proven in battle. ;) Very much like the way I have several ways to add mids, and also cut bass.

Sounds like Contour B and the Drive channel can both be used as a HPF of sorts. Cool.

Also starts to sound like Contour B or Drive channel, but not both at the same time... Though certainly will keep trying. :-) Love me some mids! ;)
 
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NighthawkGS said:
Thanks Jeff! Awesomely detailed reply. Though I am still not sure which high-mids get cut with Contour B?

Liking mg800 very much so far. But can't get excited until it's proven in battle. ;) Very much like the way I have several ways to add mids, and also cut bass.

Sounds like Contour B and the Drive channel can both be used as a HPF of sorts. Cool.

Also starts to sound like Contour B or Drive channel, but not both at the same time... Though certainly will keep trying. :) Love me some mids! ;)
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Or you could just try using the Mid knob on the Genzler heads lol. Sorry man I had to do it.
 
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The MG800 has so many different tones in it that it’s a tweak masters friend. I constantly play with the contour and EQ and find so many satisfying tones. Especially live...very easy to dial in something that fits the room. Truly the best amp I’ve owned!
 
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dwellers said:
Hello brothers and sisters in bottom...

I currently own a Genzler 800 and 2 x 12-3 cabinets. Love the rig doesn't begin to describe my happiness with this setup. I also have a crappy little Fender Rumble 30 that stays home for quick practice, trying new stuff etc. It doesn't leave the house except for acoustic rehearsals.

Anyway, I am looking for a very small, lightweight portable rig that can provide enough bottom for a quiet church (synagogue actually) setting. Now, of course I'm familiar with the 350 combo but I don't want to spend $1000. I also know that I could pick up a 110 cabinet for $600 that would pair nicely with my 800 and/or my 2 x 12-3 stack. But, what I really want to do is carry my bass in one hand and my amp/combo in the other.

So, if I don't go Genzler for this purchase, and I want to keep things under $400, what would you all suggest? Would love to hear from fellow Genzler devotees who have experience with a small inexpensive, lightweight but good (doesn't need to be great) sounding rig. The current considerations are:

Blackstar Unity 120
Peavey 150
Ampeg BA112
TC Electronic BG250-112
Fender Rumble 100

All of these have a single 12 which seems a sweet spot of size/weight to bottom end.

Am I a dope for not just adding the Genzler 10-2? Or is a reasonably priced combo a good addition to the arsenal in any case?

Thanks for your informed and educated opinions!

--dwellers

PS...noting that 10-2s are out of stock everywhere including the Genzler website. Anything up with that?
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You could also look at the acousitic combo. There is a moded one for bass. I think someone was selling on here a while ago...
For Sale - Genzler Acoustic Array Pro - Gollihur Series Edition! LIKE NEW!
I have been very tempted by this...
 
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tombowlus said:
The Amp Lab technical review of the MG800 is part of the "Bass Gear Premium" subscription ($10/year), but you can read the "in-hand" review of the MG800 (and BA12-3) for free.
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