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[Joeykun]

Question for the re/Q users. (not sure how many are out there yet)

So, if I've got a REALLY hot output P-Bass that I like the tone of a lot, and then say a "meh" sounding Jazz with considerably lower output, could I use the re/Q as a "always on" HPF/LPF for both basses, then engage the "EQ" side for the Jazz to sweeten it up a little & then compensate for the lower output using the EQ Output level knob?

Absolutely!! The re/Q is perfect for this scenario!

 

[Nuage420]

 

[SteveC]

Absolutely!! The re/Q is perfect for this scenario!

I have that exact scenario!

 

[SteveC]

Ok, so I have a hot P4, a slightly less hot P5, and a way weak J4 that I am planning to use on gigs. (Guitar player brings 3. Keyboard guy has 3.)
I have a little clean boost pedal I was going to use with the P5. It just needs to be a little louder to match up. With the P4. The J4 could use some eq help.

So, I go from Tuner/mute to the clean boost to the Genzler eq to my compressor and then send that to my REDDI.

I leave the filter section on all the time. It’ll work for every bass. I hit the clean boost for the P5 for a little extra level but no eq. Still gets the filters. I turn on the eq when using the J4. It gets the eq, volume boost and filters.

If that is correct, I’ve found my solution, and it’ll all still fit on my Nano - well not the REDDI but you know what I mean.

 

[Rob Gallo]

Hi there,
I’m new here and I’m impressed with the amount of info and exchange of support here. Therefore, I look forward to some opinion.

I’ve been playing Genz Benz cabs for a number of years, currently play through a 2x10 focus and a 500watt Aguilar head. When I need some extra volume for larger gigs without PA support, I add a heavy 1x15 from a cheap sounding brand which will remain nameless. I like the extended low end, but the cab is terrible.
So I decided to buy a new good cab which won’t take me to the chiropractor.

Recently I briefly tested a Genzler BA10-2 from an acquaintance and I really liked the sound. He told me about this forum and here I am.

There’s a clearance deal on a BA12-3 and on a Magellan 1x12. The specs of both look great on paper. I’m also interested on the BA15-3, however the price is a little too much for me right now. I am a working musician/teacher. To test them I would have to drive 4.5 hours each way, so I’d rather not.

I like the extended frequency response of a 12 or a 15 speaker, and although I play only 4 string P basses, I use octavers quite frequently.

I can’t help to wonder how a BA12-3 on top of the 2x10 focus would sound. I never used a 12 on top of 2x10 before. Can anybody think of any cons on that configuration? Are the cabs way too different? Any other suggestions? I can’t buy 2 new Genzler cabs now, but that would be as plan in the future. Any input is greatly appreciated.

Many thanks in advance!
Rob

 

[Holdsg]

Hard to go wrong with a 12-3 as a base (pun intended) for any Genzler cab collection (because you'll get there eventually). Will sound good by itself, and might sound great with the Focus cab (I have no experience with that pairing), but because it sounds so good by itself, it makes sense to that you might just like it with the Focus. Only your ears can tell that. my $0.02

 

[PotsdamBass8]

Hi there,
I’m new here and I’m impressed with the amount of info and exchange of support here. Therefore, I look forward to some opinion.

I’ve been playing Genz Benz cabs for a number of years, currently play through a 2x10 focus and a 500watt Aguilar head. When I need some extra volume for larger gigs without PA support, I add a heavy 1x15 from a cheap sounding brand which will remain nameless. I like the extended low end, but the cab is terrible.
So I decided to buy a new good cab which won’t take me to the chiropractor.

Recently I briefly tested a Genzler BA10-2 from an acquaintance and I really liked the sound. He told me about this forum and here I am.

There’s a clearance deal on a BA12-3 and on a Magellan 1x12. The specs of both look great on paper. I’m also interested on the BA15-3, however the price is a little too much for me right now. I am a working musician/teacher. To test them I would have to drive 4.5 hours each way, so I’d rather not.

I like the extended frequency response of a 12 or a 15 speaker, and although I play only 4 string P basses, I use octavers quite frequently.

I can’t help to wonder how a BA12-3 on top of the 2x10 focus would sound. I never used a 12 on top of 2x10 before. Can anybody think of any cons on that configuration? Are the cabs way too different? Any other suggestions? I can’t buy 2 new Genzler cabs now, but that would be as plan in the future. Any input is greatly appreciated.

Many thanks in advance!
Rob

Just curious, where are you located? I just got a 12-3 and I’m in NY if you want to check it out.

 

[agedhorse]

Question for the re/Q users. (not sure how many are out there yet)

So, if I've got a REALLY hot output P-Bass that I like the tone of a lot, and then say a "meh" sounding Jazz with considerably lower output, could I use the re/Q as a "always on" HPF/LPF for both basses, then engage the "EQ" side for the Jazz to sweeten it up a little & then compensate for the lower output using the EQ Output level knob?

It seems to me this is totally doable, but I figure I'd ask those that may have tried something similar?

If it could do this, it would be a game changer for me...a "one stomp solution", as it is right now, I have to stomp on a TC Spark to up the gain, and then adjust the amps EQ (or my preamp pedal) to get the Jazz "in the game"....would be a total PITA if I had to do this a couple times a gig...

Yes, this is one scenario that the pedal will address exactly the way you proposed.

 

[MaxSpinrun]

Hi there,
I’m new here and I’m impressed with the amount of info and exchange of support here. Therefore, I look forward to some opinion.

I’ve been playing Genz Benz cabs for a number of years, currently play through a 2x10 focus and a 500watt Aguilar head. When I need some extra volume for larger gigs without PA support, I add a heavy 1x15 from a cheap sounding brand which will remain nameless. I like the extended low end, but the cab is terrible.
So I decided to buy a new good cab which won’t take me to the chiropractor.

Recently I briefly tested a Genzler BA10-2 from an acquaintance and I really liked the sound. He told me about this forum and here I am.

There’s a clearance deal on a BA12-3 and on a Magellan 1x12. The specs of both look great on paper. I’m also interested on the BA15-3, however the price is a little too much for me right now. I am a working musician/teacher. To test them I would have to drive 4.5 hours each way, so I’d rather not.

I like the extended frequency response of a 12 or a 15 speaker, and although I play only 4 string P basses, I use octavers quite frequently.

I can’t help to wonder how a BA12-3 on top of the 2x10 focus would sound. I never used a 12 on top of 2x10 before. Can anybody think of any cons on that configuration? Are the cabs way too different? Any other suggestions? I can’t buy 2 new Genzler cabs now, but that would be as plan in the future. Any input is greatly appreciated.

Many thanks in advance!
Rob

This is the place for great info and feedback. I was on the fence trying to choose between the 12-3 and 15-3, after going a while totally ampless. After hearing comments and speaking to Jeff directly, I decided to wait for the funds to get what I really wanted, the 15-3! I bought it sight unseen and heard. The SLT design is part of what makes the cab so exceptional IMHO. It’s the foundation of a very versatile system if you want to add another 15-3 or a 210-3, or for a monster rig, 410-3, as some have done here! Genzler is the pinnacle again, IMHO.

 

[Rob Gallo]

Just curious, where are you located? I just got a 12-3 and I’m in NY if you want to check it out.

I'm a little too far... in the UK! But thanks for offering.

 

[Nuage420]

So I think I'm going to leave the reQ in the loop as an always on. I tried it on the pedal board but I don't think I need to take up the real estate if it's going to be always on.

 

[agedhorse]

When using in a line level effects loop, I recommend using an 18V supply so that you have adequate headroom for the line level signal

 

[Rob Gallo]

This is the place for great info and feedback. I was on the fence trying to choose between the 12-3 and 15-3, after going a while totally ampless. After hearing comments and speaking to Jeff directly, I decided to wait for the funds to get what I really wanted, the 15-3! I bought it sight unseen and heard. The SLT design is part of what makes the cab so exceptional IMHO. It’s the foundation of a very versatile system if you want to add another 15-3 or a 210-3, or for a monster rig, 410-3, as some have done here! Genzler is the pinnacle again, IMHO.

Thanks for replying.
I am in the same position. Either buy the 12-3 now or wait a few months to afford the 15-3. If I buy the 12-3 I would be stacking it on top of my 2x10 Genz Benz. However, I've never done that before and I never saw anyone doing this stacking, so I'm not sure if there are any drawbacks to it.
What made you decide for the 15-3 instead of the 12-3?

 

[bherman]

Stacking works, I have a pair of 10-2 array cabs and a 112TV. I often stack a 10-2 on top of the 112.

 

[Turn Em Loose]

Question for you Genzler geeks about power vis a vis MG350 vs MG800. I currently use a 350 with either 2 - 10-2 array cabs or a 10-2MG112TV stack. Mostly electric upright bass, fairly loud NewGrass band. At times I feel like I'm pushing the 350 to its limits and am wondering if I'd be better off with an MG800 head. But I am a bit concerned about that much power into lower-rated cabs (the 10-2 is rated at 250 watts and the 112TV at 350 watts, both at 8 ohms). I know how to manage/limit my volume, but am concerned that peaks might throw more at the speakers than they are designed to handle. Anyone using the MG800 regularly with smaller cabs?

I’ve used the MG800 and 2 x 10-2 stack many times. Honestly, if you’re not stupid with the combination you’ll be fine.

Heck….I’m not all that bright and I’ve never had an issue with my rig. Issues with other things? Sure. But not my Genzler gear.

 

[bherman]

I’ve used the MG800 and 2 x 10-2 stack many times. Honestly, if you’re not stupid with the combination you’ll be fine.

Heck….I’m not all that bright and I’ve never had an issue with my rig. Issues with other things? Sure. But not my Genzler gear.

Thx - and I'm the same "mostly not stupid" club. I did a gig last night with the MG 350 and 2-10-2s and it was fine - I spent some time pushing up the gain and think that it was mostly operator error.

 

[MaxSpinrun]

Thanks for replying.
I am in the same position. Either buy the 12-3 now or wait a few months to afford the 15-3. If I buy the 12-3 I would be stacking it on top of my 2x10 Genz Benz. However, I've never done that before and I never saw anyone doing this stacking, so I'm not sure if there are any drawbacks to it.
What made you decide for the 15-3 instead of the 12-3?

Talking directly with Jeff and reading feedback on this forum. The SLT design as I understand it will greatly minimize standing waves inside the cab, giving the BA 15-3 SLT quicker response, and less muddiness that is common among traditional single 15 cabs. This cab has I feel more low end depth and presence. So I feel it will give a bigger low end than the 12-3 SLT. Others here that have or have had both, will come along and chime in I’m sure. Hope this helps.

 

[Loring]

Talking directly with Jeff and reading feedback on this forum. The SLT design as I understand it will greatly minimize standing waves inside the cab, giving the BA 15-3 SLT quicker response, and less muddiness that is common among traditional single 15 cabs. This cab has I feel more low end depth and presence. So I feel it will give a bigger low end than the 12-3 SLT. Others here that have or have had both, will come along and chime in I’m sure. Hope this helps.

It would have a bit more low end and the 12 may have a bit more punch. The 210 even more punch but a bit less low end again.

 

[Turn Em Loose]

I've been trying to get some chops back on upright. And since I got the re/Q and was working on A Gentle Rain anyway.....

Be sure you turn the volume up. It's a Shen hybrid (SB150?) with a Full Circle pickup. Bass into re/Q and straight into board via a 1/4" patch cable. No EQing or processing other than the re/Q.

 

[RColie]

I've been trying to get some chops back on upright. And since I got the re/Q and was working on A Gently Rain anyway.....

Be sure you turn the volume up. It's a Shen hybrid (SB150?) with a Full Circle pickup. Bass into re/Q and straight into board via a 1/4" patch cable. No EQing or processing other than the re/Q.



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Very nice, both tone and playing! Thanks for sharing.