It'd be nice to have a big brother mounting cradle that would allow the Kinetix to be used with the same 10-2 and 12T-V cabinets with the existing combo mounting hole pattern.
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The rubber feet on the bottom of the head keep it in place pretty firmly. I wrap the speakon cable around the handle a few times so I don’t think it will come off front either.
Just fired it up for the first time. Wow! Sounds so good! Warm and smooth. Rehearsal on Sunday, can’t wait!
Does anyone use a 410 on top of 115?
Last week I played a gig and the stage was loooud. Loud and crammed. I had to be pretty much right next to the cabs. I know it’s not ideal but sometimes we have to adapt to the situation. So loud, small, and thirdly, the acoustics of the venue weren’t great. The sound got lost because of the shape of the venue.
My rig as illustrated in the image is a 12 over a 15, both slanted.
I wonder if the extra height and extra air being pushed will allow me to hear the rig better in extreme situations.
Any useful advice is welcome.
Last week I played a gig and the stage was loooud. Loud and crammed. I had to be pretty much right next to the cabs. I know it’s not ideal but sometimes we have to adapt to the situation. So loud, small, and thirdly, the acoustics of the venue weren’t great. The sound got lost because of the shape of the venue.
My rig as illustrated in the image is a 12 over a 15, both slanted.
I wonder if the extra height and extra air being pushed will allow me to hear the rig better in extreme situations.
Any useful advice is welcome.
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Best thing is not having the stage super loud…
Height is a great thing for sure but you may find using a stand or platform for your rig is way more cost effective than grabbing a 410.
lots of good reasons to shell out for the 410 but I’m not sure if this is one of them.
Height is a great thing for sure but you may find using a stand or platform for your rig is way more cost effective than grabbing a 410.
lots of good reasons to shell out for the 410 but I’m not sure if this is one of them.
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On small stages, I would often swap places with the guitarist. Meaning, I'd stand in front of his amp and he stood in front of mine. Each of you can now here your own amp. You'd be amazed at how many times this resulted in the guitarist turning down without even being asked.
loud stage, no earplugs? might be time for in-ears instead of a larger cab….
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It would be tempting to say to get another 15” cab. 3 BA cabs do an acoustic coupling that is beyond what one would think. But really, I think I would first try to get your cabs up higher toward ear level. Those 2 cabs really should produce plenty of SPL.
Loud drummer, loud guitar, cramped stage, monitors and amps facing each other and mics right in the way will create total oatmeal on stage and you can't hear a diggity thing. Happened a few months ago and now we're very careful about the stage setting.
Audience folks said it was fine. I couldn't hearing anything but sludge so I have no proof of that. Hard to groove when you're sludge-trudging.
Audience folks said it was fine. I couldn't hearing anything but sludge so I have no proof of that. Hard to groove when you're sludge-trudging.
Thanks guys, I appreciate the input. I do have in-ears. I love them. They’re always my first option. Just a bit of contex- this gig didn’t support in ears. I’m a session player, this is not my band. I just sat in. There were wedges and the wedges were mainly for the front line vocalists and the main keys player. If this were my band I’d have most guys on in ears and make sure stage volume was kept to a low spl. But again, it wasn’t. I might sit in with these guys once or twice more.
There’s not much I can do as far as walking left or right, or forward much more. It was a tight space and the guitarist wasn’t going to swap me spaces. He wasn’t the culprit. There were four wedges that were pretty dang loud. I was also standing in front of a Leslie rotary speaker and its drone seemed to phase or cancel some low mid frequencies from my rig. I know a lot of these things could be altered to make it more ideal, but not in this specific situation.
Anyone out there stack a BA410 over a BA15? I’m also asking because I’ve been thinking of getting more cabs. I’m working on a project and building a four piece band and would like my rig to be a bit bigger. @bebass the 3 cab stack is fine but personally I think they end up looking a tiny bit disproportionate. Tall but skinny. I know, I’m dumb and this shouldn’t matter. If anything, I would personally get another BA15-3 slt and BA12-3 slt and have a rig that’s two cabs wide X two cabs tall. But I also think a little more height would be a plus. I’m used to slightly taller stacks.
Forgive me, I have symptoms of a gear nut haha.
There’s not much I can do as far as walking left or right, or forward much more. It was a tight space and the guitarist wasn’t going to swap me spaces. He wasn’t the culprit. There were four wedges that were pretty dang loud. I was also standing in front of a Leslie rotary speaker and its drone seemed to phase or cancel some low mid frequencies from my rig. I know a lot of these things could be altered to make it more ideal, but not in this specific situation.
Anyone out there stack a BA410 over a BA15? I’m also asking because I’ve been thinking of getting more cabs. I’m working on a project and building a four piece band and would like my rig to be a bit bigger. @bebass the 3 cab stack is fine but personally I think they end up looking a tiny bit disproportionate. Tall but skinny. I know, I’m dumb and this shouldn’t matter. If anything, I would personally get another BA15-3 slt and BA12-3 slt and have a rig that’s two cabs wide X two cabs tall. But I also think a little more height would be a plus. I’m used to slightly taller stacks.
Forgive me, I have symptoms of a gear nut haha.
Yes sir. Check check check. Except like I said before the guitarist surprisingly was not the culprit for the loud stage this time. I actually love hearing that guy.
But yes, you explained my experience in your words. Crowd loved it. Stage noise was messy. I couldn’t hear myself much. Not much I could do except play along.
I actually have run a 15-3 on top (not on bottom) of a 410-3.
I say top, because I put casters on my 410-3, making it always the bottom (unless I turned it sideways, which I'm not suggesting anyone do).
the 15-3 footprint is a few inches bigger all the way around from the 410 footprint. that's just a visual thing for me why I would prefer the 12-3 topper. the sound...which is what really matters, right? the sound was really good. not much difference I could tell between the 15-3 and 12-3 on top. other than a bit more max bottom end from that big 15 inch driver.
I say top, because I put casters on my 410-3, making it always the bottom (unless I turned it sideways, which I'm not suggesting anyone do).
the 15-3 footprint is a few inches bigger all the way around from the 410 footprint. that's just a visual thing for me why I would prefer the 12-3 topper. the sound...which is what really matters, right? the sound was really good. not much difference I could tell between the 15-3 and 12-3 on top. other than a bit more max bottom end from that big 15 inch driver.
Luckily, in my case the guitar/lead singer had the same issue that I had so he's as big as me on not having it happen again. My G-B Contour normally cuts through like a knife, but Dawn couldn't cut that grease.
Every time I get $ for a MG 350 combo, karma comes along. Car repair is going to cost $1,400.
it is literally the fourth time it's happened that something came up costing amp money.
kind of funny, at this point.
Ok, here we go again. Going through the change in my top drawer now...75 cents!
It's a start
it is literally the fourth time it's happened that something came up costing amp money.
kind of funny, at this point.
Ok, here we go again. Going through the change in my top drawer now...75 cents!
It's a start
It's karma for those years when Carlow was solid and I bought really nice basses. One good thing is O always have amp money to pay a bill!
*grumbling cranky emoji*
*grumbling cranky emoji*
Tonight’s show with this new Kintetix head. Sound check was very good.
