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Genzler Amplification Club

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After a few songs and adjustments this is where I ended up with my amp settings. I have plenty of control on my bass with overall volume levels. I only needed a small amount of preamp boost since the head provides tremendous low end and volume.
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I never owned a Streamliner, though I have played through them on multiple occasions. To my ears, the Kinetix can definitely cop that thick, deep, wooly, warm Streamliner tone (especially in the "Thick" setting), but it can also do the very open, harmonically exciting more "HiFi tube" tone that IME/IMHO, the Streamliner couldn't quite capture.
 
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Just thought I'd leave an update on tonight's gig. I ran my MG350s with one BA-15 and one BA12 with an HX Stomp running the Noble preamp approximation (Royal?). We were playing in an outdoor venue with several hundred people in attendance and the venue has a very nice Meyer rig. I was curious how the Stomp preset affected my sound, so at the end of the night, I asked him how it sounded through the PA. He said he barely had any of me in the PA and the amp carried the space perfectly and he saw no reason to mess with it. It's pretty amazing to me because as a sound person, a bass rig from the stage, especially a hollow stage, will always sound worse than the sound from a PA, especially one with really nice speakers and subs like Meyer. Impact, thump, clarity, just these two little speakers did the job. I'm pretty blown away. A friend of mine was in the audience who plays in a mid level touring band (they sell out Red Rocks multiple nights and arenas around the country) and he thought it sounded great, too. I always expect this rig to sound good, but wow. Thank you, Jeff.
 
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tombowlus said:
I never owned a Streamliner, though I have played through them on multiple occasions. To my ears, the Kinetix can definitely cop that thick, deep, wooly, warm Streamliner tone (especially in the "Thick" setting), but it can also do the very open, harmonically exciting more "HiFi tube" tone that IME/IMHO, the Streamliner couldn't quite capture.
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Nice comment Tom about the comparison. I have The MG800 and I am probably going to add the Kinetix.
 
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Jfp said:
As a Streamliner user, I second that emotion.
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If I can comment --- during our development of the new Kinetix 800, we started with a clean slate as compared to the Streamliner. The Kinetix and Streamliner are 2 complete different desings. During our beta testing of the new Kinetix, certainly we did play this new design against the Streamliner. We find that the Kinetix offers a more dynamic response, easier tonal settings and just sounds ---- bigger. As well, there is more flexibilty with a varity of tonal settings with the Kinetix. Certainly we've always been proud of what we achieved with the Streamliner AND are impressed that it is still a very popular amp on the used market --- and can be hard to find. It always will be.

But the Kinetix 800 is that next generation forward and we feel we've developed something new to offer to this segment of the market.

I hope this helps with some of these questions.
 
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Jeff Genzler said:
If I can comment --- during our development of the new Kinetix 800, we started with a clean slate as compared to the Streamliner. The Kinetix and Streamliner are 2 complete different desings. During our beta testing of the new Kinetix, certainly we did play this new design against the Streamliner. We find that the Kinetix offers a more dynamic response, easier tonal settings and just sounds ---- bigger. As well, there is more flexibilty with a varity of tonal settings with the Kinetix. Certainly we've always been proud of what we achieved with the Streamliner AND are impressed that it is still a very popular amp on the used market --- and can be hard to find. It always will be.

But the Kinetix 800 is that next generation forward and we feel we've developed something new to offer to this segment of the market.

I hope this helps with some of these questions.
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You had me at “If…”.
 
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Jeff Genzler said:
If I can comment --- during our development of the new Kinetix 800, we started with a clean slate as compared to the Streamliner. The Kinetix and Streamliner are 2 complete different desings. During our beta testing of the new Kinetix, certainly we did play this new design against the Streamliner. We find that the Kinetix offers a more dynamic response, easier tonal settings and just sounds ---- bigger. As well, there is more flexibilty with a varity of tonal settings with the Kinetix. Certainly we've always been proud of what we achieved with the Streamliner AND are impressed that it is still a very popular amp on the used market --- and can be hard to find. It always will be.

But the Kinetix 800 is that next generation forward and we feel we've developed something new to offer to this segment of the market.

I hope this helps with some of these questions.
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I always struggled a little bit with the EQ section on the Streamliner. Once I understood how it worked, I could make it happen to some degree... but with the Kinetix 800, the EQ section is just much more intuitive for me. And the Kinetix 800's EQ points are fabulous, they boost and cut in all the right places. And the heft that comes from the latest generation power amp technology is fantastic, as well. Through a pair of Bass Array 112 cabinets, it's gloriously fat.
 
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RocketMusic said:
I always struggled a little bit with the EQ section on the Streamliner. Once I understood how it worked, I could make it happen to some degree... but with the Kinetix 800, the EQ section is just much more intuitive for me. And the Kinetix 800's EQ points are fabulous, they boost and cut in all the right places. And the heft that comes from the latest generation power amp technology is fantastic, as well. Through a pair of Bass Array 112 cabinets, it's gloriously fat.
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+1 Totally agree. :thumbsup:
 
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I recently bought a 4 on the Floor. My shameful intention was to just capture one very subtle "always-on tone enhancer" setting on my Quad Cortex, and then return the pedal.

The pedal sounds so good that I decided to keep it, even though I never really use overdrive as an effect! Great job, Genzler - you deterred me from "piracy" with the awesome quality of your product! :D

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I thought I'd give you guys an update. I had a rehearsal yesterday with a classic rock band in a very bad room. The rig performed so much better than the Ampeg combo that I had used previously. The amp sounds so smooth to my ears. I guess the best way I can describe it is a hifi tube sound. Clear, articulate, warm and harmonically rich. Everything is set flat except the high mids that I have at about 2 o'clock. I played my Spector w/ EMG's. Gain was at 9 o’clock volume @11 o’clock and the master was at 10 o’clock and I had no problem keeping up w/ two guitarist. Exactly what I was looking for.
 
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