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Weekend review with the KINETIX 800.

I am a gear head. I have a difficult time articulating the technical details but my ears are well trained and I don't like to tweak knobs..I play primarily 4 string..no effects and I play both finger style and with a pick.

I played 2 shows over this past weekend at two large venues. I used the KINETIX 800 with my Bag End 15’s and a Sadowsky P/J. I received the head on Thursday and used it Friday and Saturday..both shows 2+ hours long.
This was my first GENZLER product .. I was impressed with the build quality right out of the box..it’s solid and nicely balanced and well packaged.

I plugged in at Friday’s venue and instantly knew that this was a good purchase. EQ was as pictured throughout the weekend and I did have to back off the master volume on Saturday’s show.

For those not familiar with the Bag End cabs the S15’s that I use they tend to be a bit mid focused since the enclosures are the smallest of all the 15” cabs out there. They are tight and focused and rarely get boomy. Because of this I sometimes need to pull back on the mids and bump the bass controls…I did not have to do this with this head.

I think that many of us here think that the EQ settings all at 12 o’clock is the baked in sound of an amp and we can tweak that as needed. I did not need to tweak this head.. I did push the gain control into mild break up and it worked beautifully..especially after the tubes warmed up.. the revelation for me was that my P Bass suddenly sounded so much better than it has in the past..

During soundcheck I was able to play around with the Mute/ON/Boost control and the Lean/Fat/Thick settings at high volume levels and they do as advertised. I had the amp set to Fat and it was perfect for what I needed.. I was also messing with a few different EQ settings during soundcheck with great results.

FOH guys were impressed with the head as well..there are a few bass players that work at one of the venues and we always talk shop. We gathered around this new head like a water cooler moment and went through it knob by knob.
Simple controls and useful features make this is a great new head especially if you like tube grind.. plenty of tone and volume from this head.

I am not in the market for new cabinets but was looking at the GENZLER cabinets online..the NuClassics look interesting..I don’t like tweeters so the Array line is not for me but they look awesome.

Great job Jeff and team..
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Weekend review with the KINETIX 800.

I am a gear head. I have a difficult time articulating the technical details but my ears are well trained and I don't like to tweak knobs..I play primarily 4 string..no effects and I play both finger style and with a pick.

I played 2 shows over this past weekend at two large venues. I used the KINETIX 800 with my Bag End 15’s and a Sadowsky P/J. I received the head on Thursday and used it Friday and Saturday..both shows 2+ hours long.
This was my first GENZLER product .. I was impressed with the build quality right out of the box..it’s solid and nicely balanced and well packaged.

I plugged in at Friday’s venue and instantly knew that this was a good purchase. EQ was as pictured throughout the weekend and I did have to back off the master volume on Saturday’s show.
I think that many of us here think that the EQ settings all at 12 o’clock is the baked in sound of an amp and we can tweak that as needed. I did not need to tweak this head.. I did push the gain control into mild break up and it worked beautifully..especially after the tubes warmed up.. the revelation for me was that my P Bass suddenly sounded so much better than it has in the past..

During soundcheck I was able to play around with the Mute/ON/Boost control and the Lean/Fat/Thick settingsat high volume levels and they do as advertised. I had the amp set to Fat and it was perfect for what I needed.. I was also messing with a few different EQ settings during soundcheck with great results.

FOH guys were impressed with the head as well..there are a few bass players that work at one of the venues and we always talk shop. We gathered around this new head like a water cooler moment and went through it knob by knob.

This is a great new head and if you like tube grind this is a great option.. plenty of tone and volume from this head.

I was looking at the GENZLER cabinets online..the NuClassics look interesting..I don’t like tweeters so the Array line is not for me but they look awesome.

Great job Jeff and team.. View attachment 5439861 View attachment 5439862 View attachment 5439863

Wow, great crowd! :bassist: :bassist: :bassist:

Glad you dig the Kinetix! :thumbsup:
 
Weekend review with the KINETIX 800.

I am a gear head. I have a difficult time articulating the technical details but my ears are well trained and I don't like to tweak knobs..I play primarily 4 string..no effects and I play both finger style and with a pick.

I played 2 shows over this past weekend at two large venues. I used the KINETIX 800 with my Bag End 15’s and a Sadowsky P/J. I received the head on Thursday and used it Friday and Saturday..both shows 2+ hours long.
This was my first GENZLER product .. I was impressed with the build quality right out of the box..it’s solid and nicely balanced and well packaged.

I plugged in at Friday’s venue and instantly knew that this was a good purchase. EQ was as pictured throughout the weekend and I did have to back off the master volume on Saturday’s show.



For those not familiar with the Bag End cabs the S15’s that I use they tend to be a bit mid focused since the enclosures are the smallest of all the 15” cabs out there. They are tight and focused and rarely get boomy. Because of this I sometimes need to pull back on the mids and bump the bass controls…I did not have to do this with this head.

I think that many of us here think that the EQ settings all at 12 o’clock is the baked in sound of an amp and we can tweak that as needed. I did not need to tweak this head.. I did push the gain control into mild break up and it worked beautifully..especially after the tubes warmed up.. the revelation for me was that my P Bass suddenly sounded so much better than it has in the past..

During soundcheck I was able to play around with the Mute/ON/Boost control and the Lean/Fat/Thick settingsat high volume levels and they do as advertised. I had the amp set to Fat and it was perfect for what I needed.. I was also messing with a few different EQ settings during soundcheck with great results.

FOH guys were impressed with the head as well..there are a few bass players that work at one of the venues and we always talk shop. We gathered around this new head like a water cooler moment and went through it knob by knob.
Simple controls and useful features make this is a great new head especially if you like tube grind.. plenty of tone and volume from this head.

I was looking at the GENZLER cabinets online..the NuClassics look interesting..I don’t like tweeters so the Array line is not for me but they look awesome.

Great job Jeff and team.. View attachment 5439861 View attachment 5439862 View attachment 5439863

I bet that's a phenomenal combo. I had a pair of old s15D's with the streamliner and it was one of my favorite pairings ever. Just a note, the bass arrays are really nothing like cabs with tweeters. I've had multiple versions of the BA's, and the series 2 10's I have now (x's 3) are my favorite cab of all time. Give them a try if you can.
 
However they’re classified .. there are too many for me.

And there is nothing at all wrong with that!! It is your tone and your talent.
I'm glad you can now enjoy it just a little bit more with the new Kinetix 800 and your existing Bag End cabs.

As you mentioned the Nu CLassic cabs, if you do want to consider something like that, which is a bit different than your current cabs --- the tweeters in the NC can be totally adjusted and turned off completely if you'd like. Just for reference.
Glad you're enjoying the new amp!!
 
Weekend review with the KINETIX 800.

I am a gear head. I have a difficult time articulating the technical details but my ears are well trained and I don't like to tweak knobs..I play primarily 4 string..no effects and I play both finger style and with a pick.

I played 2 shows over this past weekend at two large venues. I used the KINETIX 800 with my Bag End 15’s and a Sadowsky P/J. I received the head on Thursday and used it Friday and Saturday..both shows 2+ hours long.
This was my first GENZLER product .. I was impressed with the build quality right out of the box..it’s solid and nicely balanced and well packaged.

I plugged in at Friday’s venue and instantly knew that this was a good purchase. EQ was as pictured throughout the weekend and I did have to back off the master volume on Saturday’s show.

For those not familiar with the Bag End cabs the S15’s that I use they tend to be a bit mid focused since the enclosures are the smallest of all the 15” cabs out there. They are tight and focused and rarely get boomy. Because of this I sometimes need to pull back on the mids and bump the bass controls…I did not have to do this with this head.

I think that many of us here think that the EQ settings all at 12 o’clock is the baked in sound of an amp and we can tweak that as needed. I did not need to tweak this head.. I did push the gain control into mild break up and it worked beautifully..especially after the tubes warmed up.. the revelation for me was that my P Bass suddenly sounded so much better than it has in the past..

During soundcheck I was able to play around with the Mute/ON/Boost control and the Lean/Fat/Thick settingsat high volume levels and they do as advertised. I had the amp set to Fat and it was perfect for what I needed.. I was also messing with a few different EQ settings during soundcheck with great results.

FOH guys were impressed with the head as well..there are a few bass players that work at one of the venues and we always talk shop. We gathered around this new head like a water cooler moment and went through it knob by knob.
Simple controls and useful features make this is a great new head especially if you like tube grind.. plenty of tone and volume from this head.

I was looking at the GENZLER cabinets online..the NuClassics look interesting..I don’t like tweeters so the Array line is not for me but they look awesome.

Great job Jeff and team.. View attachment 5439861 View attachment 5439862 View attachment 5439863


Great review! I also second that if you don't like tweeters, the Bass Array cabinets are probably tailored for you.
The high end is sweet, not harsh, not exaggerated. I have a 15 SLT that is very even. I do like tweeters, and sometimes would like a little more top end. Which would possibly mean that the bass arrays would be ideal for you.
 
Glad to see the new amp but like @Holdsg I will be holding on to the MG800/BA410 setup. I think the only thing I will attempt to add to my Genzler arsenal will be a BA210 at some point. Looking forward to hearing more great stuff about the new amp though!!

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ummm. Don’t do that. Don’t look up to me.
I’m weak.
You guessed it… Kinetix incomming
 
Question:

To maximize versatility of all the various contour options, how about a Kinetix head paired with a Magellan preamp pedal? Or is it redundant?

This is a great question. Yes, the MG-PRE-PEDAL is completely different than the Kinetix pre. I have talked to a couple of users about this exact thing. You could use the MG-PRE-PEDAL into the AUX input of the Kinetix. Say if you have 2 different basses and wanted a completely different tonal vibe for earh. Maybe a P-bass into the Kinetix front end and a J-bass or extended range bass into the MG-PRE-PEDAL. You could have a seperate DI send for each bass in this scenario.
There are options.
 
This is a great question. Yes, the MG-PRE-PEDAL is completely different than the Kinetix pre. I have talked to a couple of users about this exact thing. You could use the MG-PRE-PEDAL into the AUX input of the Kinetix. Say if you have 2 different basses and wanted a completely different tonal vibe for earh. Maybe a P-bass into the Kinetix front end and a J-bass or extended range bass into the MG-PRE-PEDAL. You could have a seperate DI send for each bass in this scenario.
There are options.

Brilliant! This will be my game plan.

For the last 25 years, my big rack rig has been an Alembic F-1x for big fat warm tube goodness (most recently, into my stack of 3 Bass Arrays). I've run a variety of different pedals and EQs in front of it to take advantage of additional tone shaping and flavor while still preserving the tube warmth of the Alembic as my "always on" sound. The one downside of the Alembic, and its associated Crest 3.0 DSP power amp/small nuclear reactor, is the schlep. The Kinetix/Magellan preamp strategy sounds like the ultralight alternative!