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Genzler Amplification ! New Genz Benz ?

#522
As an owner and lover of an Uber 1288 (my fave ever, although I wish it were as light as a 12-3), I must say that Mr G truly gets to the next level with multi-driver designs. I would love to hear reviews of the 12-3.
 
#523
I was in the midst of designing for myself a similar line-array product when I first saw these - told Jeff now I didn't have to build them.
The line array concept is old but I believe we are really just now seeing the modern pro-sound industry implementation becoming popular. Companies like RCF have many line array products. For a smaller system, their EVOX line is freakin amazing. The comments you hear from these systems center around the amazing horizontal dispersion - filling the room.
Mr Genzler's design is the very first implementing this concept for us bass players and I think it is remarkable foresight for him to be the first to introduce this concept to the bass playing community. I believe the bass stage presence will totally change - NOW I can hear myself.
 
#524
svtb15 said:
Im thinking the BA112 is going to be a huge hit with Upright and Rock bass alike.. A P bass with flats can really get a lot of mileage on a cab like that.. . There's a lot of tonal detail in the "mids to highs' in flats that a typical tweeter just sounds rank.... There is a certain sound to all an paper system that is smooth...
I often love the way one of my P basses when dressed in flats sounds in a recording situation where i have a good monitor.. Then on a gig its not the same. I hate to "guess" . But i can imagine that these would react like a studio monitor in a good way but still put out some hefty dB and still have fairly decent off axis clarity...... Im imagining right now.
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Hey Kirk,
During beta testing of the proto type BA12-3's we did use a Lull with flats and the clarity of the distinctive "thud" was nicely detailed----more so than a traditional woofer/tweeter cab. This design will also provide more musical character for overdriven and distorted tones as well.

Jeff
 
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#525
Wide-dispersion Studio Monitors or a high-end Home Theater setup are exactly the applications I was imagine this configuration could be ideal for.

It's kind of a nice alternative to the concentric-driver configuration of something like a Tannoy, but using more conventionally-tooled drivers.:cool:
 
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BTL said:
Wide-dispersion Studio Monitors or a high-end Home Theater setup are exactly the applications I was imagine this configuration could be ideal for.

It's kind of a nice alternative to the concentric-driver configuration of something like a Tannoy, but using more conventionally-tooled drivers.:cool:
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Rick James said:
Not by a long shot. My BFM Jack 12 uses the same concept, and I built it going on ten years ago. BFM DR cabs use it, and they date back to around 1998.
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"implementing this concept for us bass players"
My understanding was the jack 12 was a pro sound cab design - sorry I didn't know it was a specific bass cab design. And I used some line-array style cabs in the early 80's before Bill released the jack 12, so the concept is not new. Only bass specific.
 
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squarewave said:
Turning the array to a horizontal position wiy much entirely different designsll, indeed, have a negative impact. It must be oriented vertically for the desired dispersion.
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Unless everyone listening is lying down on their sides elevated above the ground.
Jeff Scott said:
Aren't the BFM cabs a horn loaded design? Jeff's is a direct radiator design.
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Yes, pretty much entirely different designs. If we wanted to compare a BF design we could pair a Simplexx and a SLA with appropriate crossovers. But it wouldn't be "point source".
 
#538
svtb15 said:
are you still making the Oscartone ?
That is a killer box
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Nope. I stoped last year - I got too busy + the switching pots I preferred started to decline in quality. :-/

CTS just started making a good alternative though... I've had some more high-level players like yourself inquire about wanting one, so I may do another limited production run.
 
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I know how people feel about Piezos.
One tour that i was out on the sound company had an old Meyer rig.. The ones with "the dick" mid hi cabs.. not the newer line array they are now.. ( just did shows with the newer Meyer line array and boy does it sound great) Anyway . this was all run on old crests 7000 and 8000 series amps and a Harrison desk.. If you didnt peel back the grill you would never know they used piezos in the top top....
The system was very smooth and round/ warm. with deadly punch... must have been a 30,000 watt system..



B-string said:
Yes, folded horns with cheap piezo tweeter horns IIRC, in an array.
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svtb15 said:
I know how people feel about Piezos.
One tour that i was out on the sound company had an old Meyer rig.. The ones with "the dick" mid hi cabs.. not the newer line array they are now.. ( just did shows with the newer Meyer line array and boy does it sound great) Anyway . this was all run on old crests 7000 and 8000 series amps and a Harrison desk.. If you didnt peel back the grill you would never know they used piezos in the top top....
The system was very smooth and round/ warm. with deadly punch... must have been a 30,000 watt system..
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Think those may have cost more than a couple bucks each? ;)
 
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