Get off my LAWN! "Grumpy Old Farts"

[Jeff Scott]

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The only thing missing was an Amish buggy.

Did anyone notice Enzo in the background flipping the bird?

 

[beans-on-toast]

Interesting video:

A good song can fly. Unfortunately John Denver had some issues and a suspended pilots license.

 

[beans-on-toast]

Mike Masse going live soon at 3:30EST

 

[lowplaces]

@Jeff Scott or...Any of you old farts know what the proper way to run a 6 string archtop w/an under saddle piezo into a mixer ?

The p/up has a preamp with a volume and a EQ control (just a single eq control)

Would something similar to this be required ?

Acoustic DI – Tech 21 NYC

 

[beans-on-toast]

@Jeff Scott or...Any of you old farts know what the proper way to run a 6 string archtop w/an under saddle piezo into a mixer ?

The p/up has a preamp with a volume and a EQ control (just a single eq control)

Would something similar to this be required ?

Acoustic DI – Tech 21 NYC

Yes, it would work. There are many products/options to consider. You need a mic or a pickup going into a preamp, from there to a PA or recording interface. Acoustic instruments can feed back, the advantage of the EQ with a notch is that it can dial out any feedback. Of course, some preamps are better sounding than others.

 

[lowplaces]

Yes, it would work. There are many options to consider. You need a mic or a pickup going into a preamp, from there to a PA or recording interface. Acoustic instruments can feed back, the advantage of the EQ with a notch is that it can dial out feedback.

Good deal then, I still need to figure out which input to use on the mixer but I can read the owner's manual for that.

It's a Yamaha MG 10X U mixer.

 

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Good deal then, I still need to figure out which input to use on the mixer but I can read the owner's manual for that.

It's a Yamaha MG 10X U mixer.

ok you might not need the DI, hold on, I'll check.

 

[lowplaces]

I just realized I have one of these in storage.

Zoom 504

It's from the 90s and I haven't used it for about 15-20 years. It has some sort of anti-feedback feature. No XLR though.

 

[beans-on-toast]

Good deal then, I still need to figure out which input to use on the mixer but I can read the owner's manual for that.

It's a Yamaha MG 10X U mixer.

With this mixer, you can mic the instrument and plug into the mixer. Problem solved.

Some mixers like this one allow mic or line level input. Some mixers like my little Mackie have a switch specifically for passive instrument level inputs. I'm not seeing that in the manual. The definition of line level varies though. Some products allow you to plug an instrument into the line level input, some require a preamp to boost the pickup level, then into the line level input.

All may not be lost, simply try plugging into the Yamaha line level 1/4" input (channel 1 to 4) and see if it works. At the same time some soundhole pickups are active with a built in pre and don't need an external pre to drive a line level input, some passive pickups have a high enough output that they too don't need a pre. Again, try it and see.

As for using the Zoom, plug the guitar into whichever input sounds best. Plug the outut of the Zoom into the mixer's line level input. No DI needed.

 

[lowplaces]

With this mixer, you can mic the instrument and plug into the mixer. Problem solved.

Some mixers like this one allow mic or line level input. Some mixers like my little Mackie have a switch specifically for passive instrument level inputs. I'm not seeing that in the manual. The definition of line level varies though. Some products allow you to plug an instrument into the line level input, some require a preamp to boost the pickup level, then into the line level input.

All may not be lost, simply try plugging into the Yamaha line level 1/4" input (channel 1 to 4) and see if it works. At the same time some soundhole pickups are active with a built in pre and don't need an external pre to drive a line level input, some passive pickups have a high enough output that they too don't need a pre. Again, try it and see.

As for using the Zoom, plug the guitar into whichever input sounds best. Plug the outut of the Zoom into the mixer's line level input. No DI needed.

With this mixer, you can mic the instrument and plug into the mixer. Problem solved.

Some mixers like this one allow mic or line level input. Some mixers like my little Mackie have a switch specifically for passive instrument level inputs. I'm not seeing that in the manual. The definition of line level varies though. Some products allow you to plug an instrument into the line level input, some require a preamp to boost the pickup level, then into the line level input.

All may not be lost, simply try plugging into the Yamaha line level 1/4" input (channel 1 to 4) and see if it works. At the same time some soundhole pickups are active with a built in pre and don't need an external pre to drive a line level input, some passive pickups have a high enough output that they too don't need a pre. Again, try it and see.

As for using the Zoom, plug the guitar into whichever input sounds best. Plug the outut of the Zoom into the mixer's line level input. No DI needed.

Thanks for taking time to offer that info David. I'm driving right now... I'll be back for a proper reply in a while.

 

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Thanks for taking time to offer that info David. I'm driving right now... I'll be back for a proper reply in a while.

Stay safe Charlie.

 

[alaskaleftybass]

Happy Monday GOF's. Less people showing up to City Hall for work in little Sitka, Alaska. Still no covid-19 cases. I'm still going into work.

We made a ham with pineapple and cherries. Homemade potato salad, Carey's recipe. Yummm! Deviled eggs and roasted asparagus. Guess what we're going to eat for a few days LOL! Carey's not a big ham lover but is a good sport about it.

Throughout the day we watched The Greatest Story Ever Told with Max Von Sydow, then Ben Hur with Charleton Heston. The movies brought back long ago sweet memories of my growing up with Mom and Dad and brother Tom. All gone now. I was fortunate to have such a precious family.

Tonight, grilled ham and cheese! LOL

 

[Polish Thunder]

That's a tough choice! Sterling. No, Benny. No, Sterling. I've followed and known about him much longer and I am a motorhead. If I was from the UK it might be different. Or not.

But to give Benny some props, I present you with Professor Peach:

Many might not remember (or realize) that Benny Hill was the Toy Maker in Chitty Chitty Bang Bang.

 

[GonePlaid]

In the past Formula 1 was a national thing. Not a corporate thing. Not a commercial thing. And before there synchromesh there was Rudolf Caracciola - Wikipedia And in 1955 Jaguar knew they could not beat Mercedes-Benz. Jaguar's strategy was simple - since the Jag could outlast the Mercedes, push the competition so hard they break down. Sterling Moss eventually forgave John Fitch (racing driver) - Wikipedia but never won Le Mans. Here's what Le Mans looks like from the guy who was there in his Jag.

See what happens when I'm here on a Monday recalling how my father taught me the idea of driving as sport. A TR3 is not a fast car. It feels fast. Rain? Well of course. Forty degrees and drizzle is a good driving day. And think about these guys like Caracciola running flat out all night in the rain with dozens others doing the same thing. A bit of time travel, a Jaguar and thee

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"Typical French" Wouldn't it have been easier with a 'GoPro'?

 

[Jeff Scott]

@Jeff Scott or...Any of you old farts know what the proper way to run a 6 string archtop w/an under saddle piezo into a mixer ?

The p/up has a preamp with a volume and a EQ control (just a single eq control)

Would something similar to this be required ?

Acoustic DI – Tech 21 NYC

Assuming the preamp for the PU is properly designed for the piezo pickup (it required a very high input impedance at the mixer - > 4 MΩ, for example - the higher the better) you should be able to run the PU into any instrument level input on the mixer. Then, EQ to taste.

What PU and preamp do you have?

 

[lowplaces]

Assuming the preamp for the PU is properly designed for the piezo pickup (it required a very high input impedance at the mixer - > 4 MΩ, for example - the higher the better) you should be able to run the PU into any instrument level input on the mixer. Then, EQ to taste.

What PU and preamp do you have?

Hi Jeff, it's the stock one that is in my Epi Olympic.

"eSonic HD (High Definition) preamp system and Shadow NanoFlex HD Under-saddle pickup"

I don't expect it to be stellar, but unless it is just terrible it will do until I upgrade it down the line.

 

[lowplaces]

With this mixer, you can mic the instrument and plug into the mixer. Problem solved.

Some mixers like this one allow mic or line level input. Some mixers like my little Mackie have a switch specifically for passive instrument level inputs. I'm not seeing that in the manual. The definition of line level varies though. Some products allow you to plug an instrument into the line level input, some require a preamp to boost the pickup level, then into the line level input.

All may not be lost, simply try plugging into the Yamaha line level 1/4" input (channel 1 to 4) and see if it works. At the same time some soundhole pickups are active with a built in pre and don't need an external pre to drive a line level input, some passive pickups have a high enough output that they too don't need a pre. Again, try it and see.

As for using the Zoom, plug the guitar into whichever input sounds best. Plug the outut of the Zoom into the mixer's line level input. No DI needed.

Ok, thanks for taking time to offer that info. It's enough to get me started to see which option sounds best.

The only microphone I have right now is an EV vocal mic. My budget for an instrument mic is 150.00 or so.

I was considering a SM57 so I can use it on guitar cab as well but from checking on various forums, some say they are fine for acoustic and some say not a good choice.

 

[beans-on-toast]

Ok, thanks for taking time to offer that info. It's enough to get me started to see which option sounds best.

The only microphone I have right now is an EV vocal mic. My budget for an instrument mic is 150.00 or so.

I was considering a SM57 so I can use it on guitar cab as well but from checking on various forums, some say they are fine for acoustic and some say not a good choice.

The built in Epiphone pickup and pre should be better than an SM57. Plug the guitar in directly to the ¼" line input of the Yamaha.

 

[Jeff Scott]

The only microphone I have right now is an EV vocal mic. My budget for an instrument mic is 150.00 or so.

I've made great acoustic guitar recording with an AKG D200e. You should be able to find good examples well under your budget. For new, check out Audio Technica.

 

[lowplaces]

The built in Epiphone pickup and pre should be better than an SM57. The guitar should be able to be plugged in directly to the ¼" line input of the Yamaha.

I'll try that first. I just got the guitar last week and need to make sure the p/up works anyhow.