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Get off my LAWN! "Grumpy Old Farts"

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This is exactly how I was taught music theory at university. You've got a pencil that you'll need because ink certainly won't do. And we write out the chords measure for measure. Any attempt to correlate what I learn to write on paper with an instrument is irrelevant. Now I guess as a lady GOF, I'm a music major. At least this time I see a correspondence with theory and my instrument :wideyed:

PDQ Bach is to me as much a part of the time of Woodstock as Woodstock. Report from Hoople: PDQ Bach on the Air took ample play in my room. Because someone was raised in a household of classical music. Surrounded by classical musicians, I was, at an impressionable age :help: Explaining the plot of the rock opera Tommy to my father was like explaining [think of your own metaphor]
A couple-few years after seeing the Beatles on Ed Sullivan, with my father's commentary ("Bunch of damned foolishness!"), he and I were riding in the car when a rendition of Yesterday, played by Mantovani or some orchestra like that, came on the radio. The song ended as Dad pulled the car into the driveway at home and he said something to the effect of, "Now, you see? Played like that, that's good music. Why do they have to use electric guitars and have all that hair?" I didn't say anything, just chuckled and got out, because there was no point in saying anything. Fergawd'ssake, he couldn't remember that Yesterday was originally played with an orchestra, because it was sung by a guy who he knew had long hair! I grew up traditionally trained as a musician, but my parents played a wide variety of music at home. To this day, give me Sinatra singing any Nelson Riddle arrangement, Glen Miller's catalog, the Dorsey Brothers, Woody Herman, or most old standards and I'm happy as a clam. I've got my parents to thank for that. I picked up my love of Bach's music, especially organ pieces, on my own. The rest of the classical world followed in quick order. None of that was "damned foolishness." But by the time I was in high school and playing organ in a rock band, the Old Man was suddenly proud of me, and suggesting gigs the band should try to get. I still can't figure it.
 
My parents tastes tended towards TV variety show host crooners such as Andy Williams, Dean Martin, Don Ho, Herb Alpert, Perry Como, etc. Classical music was the 101 Strings Orchestra, Polka music, and Big Bands.

What’s bad is that Chuck Berry was born in 1926. They weren’t that much older, but they sure acted like it. His style of music was strictly for the kids of the 50’s. World War II made a generation act older than they were.
 
One of the problems for a classical musician is there aren't many chairs for not a lot of gigs.
I was a very good bass clarinetist in H.S and made the All-Miami Youth Symphony in that capacity. Any thoughts of pursuing that avenue were quickly dashed when I learned that one auditions for the chair and then waits for those ahead on the list to die while trying to keep one's chops in shape. Which is why many, if not most, orchestral players teach. Both in school/college and private lessons.
 
One of the problems for a classical musician is there aren't many chairs for not a lot of gigs.
There never have been. Trying to get into a major orchestra is a good way to starve for years. It's worse now, of course, and sexism is horrendous, though some women have successfully sued for equal pay. An especially rough gig these days.
 
There never have been. Trying to get into a major orchestra is a good way to starve for years. It's worse now, of course, and sexism is horrendous, though some women have successfully sued for equal pay. An especially rough gig these days.
Yeah, and it's really helped by so many school systems dropping music from the curriculum.:rollno:
 
I remember if I got an F on my report card I seriously considered not going home after school. :laugh: Nowadays both parents are working, no time to teach their kids proper social skills, teachers in a tug of war with parents on where the line is drawn on how much they should learn from the family and how much at school. Then the kids have to do rehearsals for possible horrible tragedies. My life was more like The Beaver's on TV. I think I was pretty blessed. I did get spanked a couple times but all in all my parents were loving and kind.

I did Band, we did musical history, we had all the Arts programs. There was not even a consideration of dropping any of the curriculum.
 
Example...

Maybe a Beatles tribute band....the Fab Faux...as The Fake Fab Faux...
I saw them in the mid '00s. What a wonderful show that was! :bassist:

I saw Alice Cooper throw up in a VW minivan. :cool:

THIS ^ is as rock n' roll as you can get!
I threw a Rickenbacker confluence in June 2008 called RIO!!! (Ricks In Ohio) A couple of the attendees were from England. They partied so hard they threw up on their rental car's fender before heading back to the hotel (I was surprised they made it back!). One of them was the road manager for Mott the Hoople. :thumbsup:
I was a very good bass clarinetist in H.S and made the All-Miami Youth Symphony in that capacity. Any thoughts of pursuing that avenue were quickly dashed when I learned that one auditions for the chair and then waits for those ahead on the list to die while trying to keep one's chops in shape.
When I moved out to L. A. in the summer of 1984 I applied for a job in the photography department of Hughes Aircraft (it was still called that at that time). They actually told me that the next available opening would be when one of the staff dies. Really. :laugh:
 
I saw them in the mid '00s. What a wonderful show that was! :bassist:




I threw a Rickenbacker confluence in June 2008 called RIO!!! (Ricks In Ohio) A couple of the attendees were from England. They partied so hard they threw up on their rental car's fender before heading back to the hotel (I was surprised they made it back!). One of them was the road manager for Mott the Hoople. :thumbsup:
When I moved out to L. A. in the summer of 1984 I applied for a job in the photography department of Hughes Aircraft (it was still called that at that time). They actually told me that the next available opening would be when one of the staff dies. Really. :laugh:
In 1999 The City of Sitka IS department created my first position as webmaster part time, then a year later the very first PC Tech position. For 15 years we were the original 4 members of the IS department. Then the director retired and so did the network analyst. The PD Tech moved on to manage the Southeast ACS networking based in Sitka. Due to being at the City for nearly 21 years I'm one of the few original staff left, and the last IT position that is original. The rest of the City has had turnovers in nearly every department almost yearly since 2015. Changes changes.
 
One of the problems for a classical musician is there aren't many chairs for not a lot of gigs.

The problem with bands with horn and even string sections is that there’s not a lot of gig money to go around. A friend was in a band that did Chicago songs. There was so many of them that they didn’t make much, despite doing concert hall venues that orchestras used. Publicly funded orchestras hire musicians to fill slots. They get a salary like a regular job.

An old joke... I told my manager that I needed a regular gig, she told me to try prune juice.
 
I remember if I got an F on my report card I seriously considered not going home after school. :laugh: Nowadays both parents are working, no time to teach their kids proper social skills, teachers in a tug of war with parents on where the line is drawn on how much they should learn from the family and how much at school. Then the kids have to do rehearsals for possible horrible tragedies. My life was more like The Beaver's on TV. I think I was pretty blessed. I did get spanked a couple times but all in all my parents were loving and kind.

I did Band, we did musical history, we had all the Arts programs. There was not even a consideration of dropping any of the curriculum.

What did you get an F in?

I dropped out of kindergarten, had to repeat the first grade, almost had to repeat the second and forth grades. Bouncing between two schools allowed me to pass. They said that I would never make it out of elementary school. A teacher in the fifth grade turned things around for me.
 
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In 1999 The City of Sitka IS department created my first position as webmaster part time, then a year later the very first PC Tech position. For 15 years we were the original 4 members of the IS department. Then the director retired and so did the network analyst. The PD Tech moved on to manage the Southeast ACS networking based in Sitka. Due to being at the City for nearly 21 years I'm one of the few original staff left, and the last IT position that is original. The rest of the City has had turnovers in nearly every department almost yearly since 2015. Changes changes.

You are fortunate. These days IS is often sourced out to contractors.
 
Yeah. Last time I saw Elvis was in a gas station lot in Madison, WI before his show, his last tour where he couldn't finish a single song. Sad. Anyway, I was driving and saw a limo pull into a gas station. Elvis got out. To break up a fight between two guys he didn't know! Made the TV news!

I swear Elvis, Jimmy Hoffa and Rock Hudson are sharing a patio home in a menage a trois just down the street from me...

Maybe there's a song in that.

Its been done. A rework of disgraced Rolf Harris's hit "Thunder Rise" to "Chunder Rise".
 
I threw a Rickenbacker confluence in June 2008 called RIO!!! (Ricks In Ohio) A couple of the attendees were from England. They partied so hard they threw up on their rental car's fender before heading back to the hotel (I was surprised they made it back!). One of them was the road manager for Mott the Hoople. :thumbsup:


When I moved out to L. A. in the summer of 1984 I applied for a job in the photography department of Hughes Aircraft (it was still called that at that time). They actually told me that the next available opening would be when one of the staff dies. Really. :laugh:

It’s considered very bad form when a Brit can’t hold his drink. Their families would have been embarrassed.

Hughes did some interesting research related to photography.

A technical guy from MIT also did some ground breaking work in photography using high speed imaging and strobes. Useful to Hughes.

Harold Eugene Edgerton - Wikipedia

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It's a long way from a chorus part in War and Peace to center stage in Parsifal. It becomes making ends meet with church gigs and a teaching job, is what I saw.

A former brother-in-law was in exactly that position. Big city, big gigs, low pay. He paid very little attention to rock n' roll. As I spun a few I enjoyed for him (I've forgotten what, I was pretty big into Tull around then), he was horrified by the untrained voice. Pity I didn't think to play The Byrds, he might have "got it". Closest he came to catching on was grading two students performing Touch-a Touch-a Touch-a Touch Me for a recital. He'd never heard it before!
 
Yeah, and it's really helped by so many school systems dropping music from the curriculum.:rollno:

A degree in music from the University of Southern North Dakota at Hoople still means gigs ripe for the plucking, yes?

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I’ve been to Northern North Dakota but not Southern North Dakota. There were way too many mosquitoes. The Red River floods every spring. When water hits the banks, the bugs hatch and look for blood. Maybe that’s why they call it the Red River.

The golden anniversary of PDQ Bach is discussed by Peter Schickele.

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I’ve been to Northern North Dakota but not Southern North Dakota. There were way too many mosquitoes. The Red River floods every spring. When water hits the banks, the bugs hatch and look for blood. Maybe that’s why they call it the Red River.

The golden anniversary of PDQ Bach is discussed by Peter Schickele.

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I love this one's run up to feature a Fender bass...

 
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