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Get off my LAWN! "Grumpy Old Farts"

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Though I'm not quite old enough (but probably fart enough) to be in the club here, Sir BassmanPaul was gracious enough to send me some recordings of his Lionheart days. Top notch musicians all around and vocals that would sooth even the most savage of beasts (breasts?).

I still pop it in from time to time and enjoy it every time. Real top notch gentleman we have here.
 
OK OK time to change direction of this train. What is killin me is the *&^&^%&^ dj's who play during our breaks. I'm not exagerating when I say they are at least twice our sound level playing "booty music" till we come back. When did this electronic crap become 'music'?? I go outside to the heat and humidity so I can hear myself think. I'm hoping 'live' music will make another comeback----sooner than later if we're lucky.
 
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OK OK time to change direction of this train. What is killin me is the *&^&^%&^ dj's who play during our breaks. I'm not exagerating when I say they are at least twice our sound level playing "booty music" till we come back. When did this electronic crap become 'music'?? I go outside to the heat and humidity so I can hear myself think. I'm hoping 'live' music will make another comeback----sooner than later if we're lucky.

Yeah, real music... I was very fortunate to work with some of the best bands in the world, acts with 50+ year careers. I provided audio for some of the last Cab Calloway and Count Bassie shows in the U.S., talking about class acts and great music all around in spite of the adversity the faced throughout their early life. A thing or two could be learned from acts like that.
 
Yeah, real music... I was very fortunate to work with some of the best bands in the world, acts with 50+ year careers. I provided audio for some of the last Cab Calloway and Count Bassie shows in the U.S., talking about class acts and great music all around in spite of the adversity the faced throughout their early life. A thing or two could be learned from acts like that.

I love the way those big bands used distance from the mics and placement of the musicians for the general mix.

Basically the same principal used by old school Bluegrass groups who use one central mic for voices and solos
and an overhead to capture everything else.

Really cool what they accomplished with limited track availability.
 
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Apparently, those basic concepts no longer apply to today's "music".

Actually, some engineers and producers are trying those old methods again.

Forcing themselves to work old school with limited track counts to get more of an authentic old school sound.

Micing the band/artist live or at least in live sections with overdubs as needed.

Not insisting on pristine isolation of each track, allowing mic bleed to give the project or song a more live band feel.

In other words recording a band rather than recording tracks.
 
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Apparently, those basic concepts no longer apply to today's "music".

Not sure.

I've seen, and been in, some bands where we just kind of turned the mics on and played, mixing vocals by proximity as well as using dynamics on our instruments. I love it that way.

But, that's something you might see down at the local watering hole or farmers market. You're right in that todays "popular music", it's nearly all style over substance. Lots of "image consultants" and autotune going on. Some of it IMO doesn't even qualify as music.
 
I think there's been a shift to quantity rather than quality. A lot of barkeeps in this city would rather have "entertainment" for the least amount of cash outlay they can find. Then they expect the band to promote the venue and bring in the "crowd". Regulars find all the noise offensive and fade away. Then the owner wonders why he's having to close his doors. I've seen it so many times where a great venue is sold to new owners who then nickel and dime it into the ground. <sigh>
 
Actually, some engineers and producers are trying those old methods again.

Forcing themselves to work old school with limited track counts to get more of an authentic old school sound.

Micing the band/artist live or at least in live sections with overdubs as needed.

Not insisting on pristine isolation of each track, allowing mic bleed to give the project or song a more live band feel.

In other words recording a band rather than recording tracks.
I've never understood this affinity for complete and total track isolation. I suppose you need that if you're trying to polish a turd, but if the musicians are good, a little mic bleed never hurt anybody. IMO it actually helps capture the experience, doesn't sound so "manufactured" for lack of a better word.
 
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