Get off my LAWN! "Grumpy Old Farts"

[alaskaleftybass]

Now here you have me. I love Tim Bogert. He is a monster player, and even with his gnarly tone there's something about the gnarliness that he gets which appeals to me.

I confess that I have a fondness in particular for this record, probably because I also love Jeff Beck so much. You don't get much more gnarly on bass than this. Even though most bands do not even know of this version, I confess that I channel this every time I play it.

I've actually never seen this movie, mainly because I don't watch much TV, but my husband, who is a drummer, found it very entertaining. Nothing he told me was a surprise, based on other things I've heard and read.

‘Beware of Mr. Baker’: A Documentary about the Genius and Terror of Drummer Ginger Baker – Rolling Stone

My first actual bass was also an EB-0 and I had the same experience. It was okay for someone just learning, but I quickly realized I wanted better tone and so I traded it for something marginally better. Then I traded that for a Frankenbass (P body, J neck) which sounded way better but played horribly. I didn't care. I made so much money with that bass it was unbelievable. Maybe you won't even believe it

Thank you @LBS-bass for both. I remember loving Bogert's tone back then too. Funny story. Might be another rock myth but here goes. It was told that Stevie Wonder was approached by BBA for him to write a hit song. Stevie being the master writer he is whipped out "Superstition" and gave it to BBA. But he loved it so much he also recorded it and it became a smash hit for Stevie! Anyone can verify or knows of this would be appreciated...

 

[LBS-bass]

One of my favorite albums of all time. Every cut is amazing. I got to see them live in a relatively small hall. One of the best shows I've ever seen.

Mine too! Desert Island stuff, for sure. Sadly, I've never had the opportunity to see Jeff Beck play. Closest I got was seeing Danny Gatton play some Jeff Beck stuff a few months before he died. That, in itself, was quite a privilege.

Thank you @LBS-bass for both. I remember loving Bogert's tone back then too. Funny story. Might be another rock myth but here goes. It was told that Stevie Wonder was approached by BBA for him to write a hit song. Stevie being the master writer he is whipped out "Superstition" and gave it to BBA. But he loved it so much he also recorded it and it became a smash hit for Stevie! Anyone can verify or knows of this would be appreciated...

I've heard that same story. There have been rumors that bad blood between the two resulted, but that seems unsubstantiated. I doubt Beck was expecting to get a hit song from that, but you never know. I do think he was expecting to release it first and I think was surprised when Stevie's version came out.

 

[alaskaleftybass]

Mine too! Desert Island stuff, for sure. Sadly, I've never had the opportunity to see Jeff Beck play. Closest I got was seeing Danny Gatton play some Jeff Beck stuff a few months before he died. That, in itself, was quite a privilege.



I've heard that same story. There have been rumors that bad blood between the two resulted, but that seems unsubstantiated. I doubt Beck was expecting to get a hit song from that, but you never know. I do think he was expecting to release it first and I think was surprised when Stevie's version came out.

I like your ending better than mine.

 

[GwenOnBass]

What Tim Bogart also has - in addition to monster skillz - is something he calls "flash". It's more than stage presence, it's a move, and a move of clear intention. Really, you have to see him do it, and then you know what he's talking about.

 

[beans-on-toast]

Friday On My Mind.

It’s raining cats and dogs. When I went out this morning, I had an accident with the umbrella and I wet my pants. It’s supposed to be sunny tomorrow.

 

[the harp unstrung]

I. Love. This. Song!!

 

[GwenOnBass]

Ugh, my accident with liquids is solidly into Yesterday now. That's a good portion of my cappuccino that finds its way to my clothes on its way to the floor at the nobby coffee pushers joint.

 

[beans-on-toast]

Ugh, my accident with liquids is solidly into Yesterday now. That's a good portion of my cappuccino that finds its way to my clothes on its way to the floor at the nobby coffee pushers joint.

And to those that stare, you scream, It’s not what you think!

 

[GwenOnBass]

And to those that stare, you scream, It’s not what you think!

Happily the spill goes the left side of my skirt and the cross shoulder handbag hangs right there. So safe until home ... everything ready for laundry and nearly changed when I answer an incoming. Lunch, she says, and I reply yes. Soon: "Hi ladies, get you something to drink?"

Wee Guinness

 

[beans-on-toast]

I. Love. This. Song!!

It works on so many levels, great song, entertaining video, but the audio production is superb.

The song was written and initially released by Kirsty MacColl. She’s also singing on the track. The vocal layering adds energy to the song and takes it to a higher level. It’s all about maintaining the energy.

This is another good example: Breakaway - Tracey Ullman. The drums and bass really drive this song and get people moving.

 

[the harp unstrung]

It works on so many levels, great song, entertaining video, but the audio production is superb.

The song was written and initially released by Kirsty MacColl. She’s also singing on the track. The vocal layering adds energy to the song and takes it to a higher level. It’s all about maintaining the energy.

This is another good example: Breakaway - Tracey Ullman. The drums and bass really drive this song and get people moving.

I’ve been loving every song on this record (yeah, it’s well worth getting up to turn it over ) since I brought it home from the station where I worked in 1983.
‘We’ weren’t gonna play it, so I brought it home, and have taken good care of it ever since.

The production of every moment is Perfect...on a par with Any Steely Dan record...

 

[Kingmixer325]

I’m slightly embarrassed I didn’t establish this group myself but hopefully being 68 & playing regularly in 2 bands (putting together a 3rd) will qualify me for membership!
#since ‘65...

 

[beans-on-toast]

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I’ve been loving every song on this record (yeah, it’s well worth getting up to turn it over ) since I brought it home from the station where I worked in 1983.
‘We’ weren’t gonna play it, so I brought it home, and have taken good care of it ever since.

The production of every moment is Perfect...on a par with Any Steely Dan record...

Peter Collins has produced a long list of records by bands such as Rush, Brian Setzer, Alice Cooper, Elton John, Bon Jovi, .....


Peter Collins | Credits | AllMusic

Even Save Ferris, another punchy tune.

 

[the harp unstrung]

Peter Collins has produced a long list of records by bands such as Rush, Brian Setzer, Alice Cooper, Elton John, Bon Jovi, .....


Peter Collins | Credits | AllMusic

Even Save Ferris, another punchy tune.

We really need a ‘Hot Damn Like’ option around here!

 

[Stumbo]

I’m slightly embarrassed I didn’t establish this group myself but hopefully being 68 & playing regularly in 2 bands (putting together a 3rd) will qualify me for membership!
#since ‘65...

BUT...are you grumpy?

We need a list of ailments and other "old people" stuff to make sure.

 

[Passinwind]

Jack Bruce is a beast. Agree on his tone, even with his Warwick fretless. If I'm chasing tone I may start with The Ox at Live at Leeds. Always seemed to me The Ox was probably a more affable guy than Jack. Actually I think Jack was probably a jerk 'cause that's the way he appears to me on stage. Ginger Baker agrees.

I never met Mr. Entwistle, but Jack Bruce was anything but a jerk the time I met him. Perhaps playing with Billy Cobham simply suited him better, or maybe he just mellowed with age...

 

[GwenOnBass]

BUT...are you grumpy?

We need a list of ailments and other "old people" stuff to make sure.

Ague leading to onsets of congestive chills is one thing we just never hear enough about. Share your stories! (from a distance, please, if you're consumptive)

 

[GwenOnBass]

I never met Mr. Entwistle, but Jack Bruce was anything but a jerk the time I met him. Perhaps playing with Billy Cobham simply suited him better, or maybe he just mellowed with age...

Well seen and good to hear, I stand corrected and apologies to Jack (and can report, in turn, Tim Bogart is a real gentleman in person)

It does appear the EB-0 sidewinder is a contentious affair, yet I find the pickup a fascinating bit of wizardry. All jammed up there at the neck is a particular tone .... And in that, never played a real mudbucker. Doesn't stop me from wanting to play a mudbucker, or even a modern SG bass. It's so Gibson.

 

[Al Kraft]

BUT...are you grumpy?

We need a list of ailments and other "old people" stuff to make sure.

...or alternatively you could simply complain about having to listen to all your friends talk about their ailments. I think that would seal the old, grumpy deal!

 

[Passinwind]

Well seen and good to hear, I stand corrected and apologies to Jack

It does appear the EB-0 sidewinder is a contentious affair, yet I find the pickup a fascinating bit of wizardry. All jammed up there at the neck is a particular tone .... And in that, never played a real mudbucker. Doesn't stop me from wanting to play a mudbucker, or even a modern SG bass. It's so Gibson.

I started on an EB-0. That pickup never once "bucked" mud, it only made it in prodigious quantities. In a just world the Ripper bass would've given the sidewinder idea some real traction though.

I ran into Jack Bruce unexpectedly and unannounced at an Allman Bros/ show a friend of mine was working on in the early 80s. It turned out that he (Jack B) and I were the only ones on stage for a good while pre-sound check, and he checked out my Travis Bean fretless and carried on in a distinctly non rock star sort of way. His band was all about the famous oldies though, while I was (as usual) all about hearing something new. C'est la vie!