Get off my LAWN! "Grumpy Old Farts"

[GonePlaid]

 

[Jeff Scott]

 

[rust_preacher]

Regarding "Crossroads", I have a love-hate relationship with that song. I have always wondered why I don't like Cream, and slowly I have realized I detest Jack Bruce's sound on bass. His gear just was not up to the task. In fact, Cream put me off British 60s blues-rock for a long time, altogether. The song itself is a great piece to jam on.

And I fail to see why the demonic connotation is made. There's nothing about it in the lyrics.

 

[GwenOnBass]

Jack Bruce is a beast. Agree on his tone, even with his Warwick fretless. If I'm chasing tone I may start with The Ox at Live at Leeds. Always seemed to me The Ox was probably a more affable guy than Jack. Actually I think Jack was probably a jerk 'cause that's the way he appears to me on stage. Ginger Baker agrees.

These three here at a 70s Led Zeppelin concert look like good hang-out buddies.

 

[GonePlaid]

Regarding "Crossroads", I have a love-hate relationship with that song. I have always wondered why I don't like Cream, and slowly I have realized I detest Jack Bruce's sound on bass. His gear just was not up to the task. In fact, Cream put me off British 60s blues-rock for a long time, altogether. The song itself is a great piece to jam on.

And I fail to see why the demonic connotation is made. There's nothing about it in the lyrics.

I'm happy-and somewhat relieved-to find I'm not the only one who "detest(s) Jack Bruce's sound on bass". Having owned a '66 Gibson EB-3, it took some 'fiddling' to get that sound(neck pup off or very low, bridge pup on; or switch in position 2 [out of 4]) and make certain I never played it that way.

 

[beans-on-toast]

Gilmour played on a few of McCartney’s solo albums, was in the movie Give My Regards to Broadstreet, and has rocked with him live, including the Cavern Club.

McCartney was in one of Tracey Ullman’s video (not just the Simpsons which got started on her TV show).

 

[LBS-bass]

Regarding "Crossroads", I have a love-hate relationship with that song. I have always wondered why I don't like Cream, and slowly I have realized I detest Jack Bruce's sound on bass. His gear just was not up to the task. In fact, Cream put me off British 60s blues-rock for a long time, altogether. The song itself is a great piece to jam on.

And I fail to see why the demonic connotation is made. There's nothing about it in the lyrics.

Jack Bruce was all mud. I will refrain from making any comments about his playing itself. It's hard to separate his playing from his tone. But I will say that I would not take Ginger Baker as a reliable source for anything

 

[G-Dog]

Regarding "Crossroads", ... ... I fail to see why the demonic connotation is made. There's nothing about it in the lyrics.

See the "Lyrics and Interpretation" section of this article about the song.

Cross Road Blues - Wikipedia
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[alaskaleftybass]

Jack Bruce was all mud. I will refrain from making any comments about his playing itself. It's hard to separate his playing from his tone. But I will say that I would not take Ginger Baker as a reliable source for anything

Agreed about Ginger Baker. I remember reading stories about blood leaking from his veins while performing onstage from (ahem) bad habits. He was himself an angry person. Great icons carry with themselves great burdens sometimes.

I remember hearing Cream as a kid and WANTING to play bass like that. I bought an EB-0 and I just couldn't get any tone out of it. But Jack was formidable and visionary at the time. Remember what other bands were doing with bass at the time.

The myth of Robert Johnson and the ensuing myths of the Devil and Crossroads has become to me more of a humorous myth other the years. A lot of songs were written about good and evil-- the devil-- etc. at the time. But it was just a song.

 

[alaskaleftybass]

Talk about tone... and inspiration-- here is one of my very first heroes of bass. Jack Casady.



Here's an oldy but goody... Wishbone Ash... Martin Turner was subtle but tasty on bass...

 

[beans-on-toast]

Found this Crossroads file on my computer. Probably from the 80's. Bass panned to the left.

For some reason, I have to click on the name and download it to listen, otherwise there is an error.

 

[BassmanPaul]

We back in Liverpool again. Tuesday evening was exciting as Liverpool played Barcelona again. They busted ‘em up, 4 to 0. One of the brothers has season tickets at Anfield so he was actually there. He recorded 60,000 fans singing the Anfield anthem 'You’ll Never Walk Alone.’ Twas a good night!! Tottenham Hotspurs won their game and so will meet Liverpool in, I believe, Madrid.

We fly home on Sunday. WOW! The time went so quickly. We didn’t even make it to Matalan!

My regards to all.

 

[alaskaleftybass]

We back in Liverpool again. Tuesday evening was exciting as Liverpool played Barcelona again. They busted ‘em up, 4 to 0. One of the brothers has season tickets at Anfield so he was actually there. He recorded 60,000 fans singing the Anfield anthem 'You’ll Never Walk Alone.’ Twas a good night!! Tottenham Hotspurs won their game and so will meet Liverpool in, I believe, Madrid.

We fly home on Sunday. WOW! The time went so quickly. We didn’t even make it to Matalan!

My regards to all.

Give my regards to Buckingham Palace! And kiss the royal new baby!

 

[GwenOnBass]

I'm happy-and somewhat relieved-to find I'm not the only one who "detest(s) Jack Bruce's sound on bass". Having owned a '66 Gibson EB-3, it took some 'fiddling' to get that sound(neck pup off or very low, bridge pup on; or switch in position 2 [out of 4]) and make certain I never played it that way.

Yet the EB-3 is to me one of the coolest looking basses ever made. Certain there are informed TBers who know exactly how to create a Varitone switch. Very good memory for a GOF here on the Never Use This Setting setting on the EB-3.

 

[GwenOnBass]

Agreed about Ginger Baker. I remember reading stories about blood leaking from his veins while performing onstage from (ahem) bad habits. He was himself an angry person. Great icons carry with themselves great burdens sometimes.

I remember hearing Cream as a kid and WANTING to play bass like that. I bought an EB-0 and I just couldn't get any tone out of it. But Jack was formidable and visionary at the time. Remember what other bands were doing with bass at the time.

Cool! To cop a Jack tone, I think it begins with driving the amp far beyond its intended spec. Just to tee off Ginger Baker. Which he did, by all accounts.

Tim Bogart is one of Jack Bruce's contemporaries. P-Bass. And Tim is an excellent man.

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[GwenOnBass]

Talk about tone... and inspiration-- here is one of my very first heroes of bass. Jack Casady.



Here's an oldy but goody... Wishbone Ash... Martin Turner was subtle but tasty on bass...

Oh yes this is the Jack Casidy tone that totally fried a few brain cells

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[GwenOnBass]

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[LBS-bass]

Cool! To cop a Jack tone, I think it begins with driving the amp far beyond its intended spec. Just to tee off Ginger Baker. Which he did, by all accounts.

Tim Bogart is one of Jack Bruce's contemporaries. P-Bass. And Tim is an excellent man.

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Now here you have me. I love Tim Bogert. He is a monster player, and even with his gnarly tone there's something about the gnarliness that he gets which appeals to me.

I confess that I have a fondness in particular for this record, probably because I also love Jeff Beck so much. You don't get much more gnarly on bass than this. Even though most bands do not even know of this version, I confess that I channel this every time I play it.

 

[LBS-bass]

Agreed about Ginger Baker. I remember reading stories about blood leaking from his veins while performing onstage from (ahem) bad habits. He was himself an angry person. Great icons carry with themselves great burdens sometimes.

I remember hearing Cream as a kid and WANTING to play bass like that. I bought an EB-0 and I just couldn't get any tone out of it. But Jack was formidable and visionary at the time. Remember what other bands were doing with bass at the time.

The myth of Robert Johnson and the ensuing myths of the Devil and Crossroads has become to me more of a humorous myth other the years. A lot of songs were written about good and evil-- the devil-- etc. at the time. But it was just a song.

I've actually never seen this movie, mainly because I don't watch much TV, but my husband, who is a drummer, found it very entertaining. Nothing he told me was a surprise, based on other things I've heard and read.

‘Beware of Mr. Baker’: A Documentary about the Genius and Terror of Drummer Ginger Baker – Rolling Stone

My first actual bass was also an EB-0 and I had the same experience. It was okay for someone just learning, but I quickly realized I wanted better tone and so I traded it for something marginally better. Then I traded that for a Frankenbass (P body, J neck) which sounded way better but played horribly. I didn't care. I made so much money with that bass it was unbelievable. Maybe you won't even believe it

 

[ZonieBass]

Even though most bands do not even know of this version, I confess that I channel this every time I play it.

One of my favorite albums of all time. Every cut is amazing. I got to see them live in a relatively small hall. One of the best shows I've ever seen.