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Get off my LAWN! "Grumpy Old Farts"
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There are two reasons for using a HPF.
The first is to remove low sub harmonic frequencies that tax the bass amp’s speaker. The bass sound is more focused.
The second is to make the bass sit better in the mix with the kick drum and any other instrument such as keys, each should have their own frequency space to avoid a muddy sound. The HPF helps you tune that in. This is where a variable as opposed to fixed frequency HPF comes in handy. Adjustable in the range of 40Hz to 500Hz is good.
By cutting the lows, the bass magically becomes louder in the mix.
Anything in the signal path affects the tone. You want a quality, low noise unit.
The simplest HPF is a capacitor and a resistor or pot. But what about the slope of the filter? It can be gradual or sharp. Sharper filter is more precise. This is where an active filter can do a better job. Not to mention having a lower noise floor and less signal loss hen the filter is inserted into the signal chain.
You get what you pay for. I like the fdeck unit, he provides the schematic. It’s well done.
The first is to remove low sub harmonic frequencies that tax the bass amp’s speaker. The bass sound is more focused.
The second is to make the bass sit better in the mix with the kick drum and any other instrument such as keys, each should have their own frequency space to avoid a muddy sound. The HPF helps you tune that in. This is where a variable as opposed to fixed frequency HPF comes in handy. Adjustable in the range of 40Hz to 500Hz is good.
By cutting the lows, the bass magically becomes louder in the mix.
Anything in the signal path affects the tone. You want a quality, low noise unit.
The simplest HPF is a capacitor and a resistor or pot. But what about the slope of the filter? It can be gradual or sharp. Sharper filter is more precise. This is where an active filter can do a better job. Not to mention having a lower noise floor and less signal loss hen the filter is inserted into the signal chain.
You get what you pay for. I like the fdeck unit, he provides the schematic. It’s well done.
Few people know that the bandpass filter gave birth to Kilroy. Compare this simple schematic (a capacitor, a coil, and two resistors) with the famous cartoon. The relative values of the components determine the freq selection.
Well, here's a practice track of a song that's been very overdone but a crowd pleaser. We did this song tonight without drums. My fingers started cramping as we had been rehearsing nonstop for 2 1/2 hours.. but here it is..
LOL What's so funny is that I was playing through a Gallien Krueger MB108 practice combo with an 8" speaker and 25 watts of power! It sounds HUGE but the iPhone was actually closer to the bass than the guitarist and the singer. So that's why I'm so dang loud! LOL Anyway hadn't played this song for a few years. It was fun. We're going to play it tomorrow night.
LOL What's so funny is that I was playing through a Gallien Krueger MB108 practice combo with an 8" speaker and 25 watts of power! It sounds HUGE but the iPhone was actually closer to the bass than the guitarist and the singer. So that's why I'm so dang loud! LOL Anyway hadn't played this song for a few years. It was fun. We're going to play it tomorrow night.
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Numbers come with all the other Broughton HPF/LPFs. The HPF with numbers/footswitch is $25 more.
From my research and writings, If I was gigging and my amp didn't have the controls, I would purchase the Broughton HPF/LPF. It would define the lower/upper ranges of your rig and your amp tone controls react differently when you boost them which gives you another avenue to explore.
I use tube amps so the more controls the better. I would also add a 7 to 10 band eq. pedal for more tone sculpting, especially if your bass is passive.
Anyhoo, Alb, let us know how it goes!
Oh, and be sure to get your rig up on a stand too!
And thanks for listening.
Ya know, I started promoting fdeck's hpf unit for electric bass about 10 years ago. Now look! It's an overnight success.
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No kidding, the bass sounds huge. These little combos aren't your father's Oldsmobile.
Numbers come with all the other Broughton HPF/LPFs. The HPF with numbers/footswitch is $25 more.
From my research and writings, If I was gigging and my amp didn't have the controls, I would purchase the Broughton HPF/LPF. It would define the lower/upper ranges of your rig and your amp tone controls react differently when you boost them which gives you another avenue to explore.
I use tube amps so the more controls the better. I would also add a 7 to 10 band eq. pedal for more tone sculpting, especially if your bass is passive.
Anyhoo, Alb, let us know how it goes!
Oh, and be sure to get your rig up on a stand too!
And thanks for listening.
Ya know, I started promoting fdeck's hpf unit for electric bass about 10 years ago. Now look! It's an overnight success.
Yay time to pick your brain!
Been thinking out a pedalboard for a good while, and looking at the September time frame to bring it into reality. [GuntherToody] ooh ooh [/GuntherToody]
The pedal I have now is the VT Bass Deluxe. What I believe I see from the tests @Kro published, the cab sim behaves as a LPF with a steep drop off at 5K hz. There is very little HPF capacity in the pedal, though.
My rig primary rig is the Phil Jones BG-400 + C4. The amp has a built-in HPF set at 25 hz. The instructions with the PJB gear indicate the cabs need floor coupling for optimal bass response. Also a "mini" rig of a Trace Elliot Elf and (at present) the C4. Looking to add a cab just for the Elf, likely a medium duty cab like a SVT210 AV or a PJB Cab 27.
One passive bass, one active bass. Passive basses are weird ... LOL
The VT Bass Deluxe takes up a lot of pedalboard real estate. On a tiny board like a Nano + there would be room for a tuner pedal and HPF. [GOF] I'll tell you what, in my day we just plugged into the amp and played, by cracky. We get a tube sound because of that tube amp there grumble grumbe kids grumble grumble [/GOF]
Can GOF’s see a tuner on the floor?
All amps have a built in HPF to prevent excessive speaker excursion. Unfortunately, it’s too low to be effective in a mix. Best to have another one.
All amps have a built in HPF to prevent excessive speaker excursion. Unfortunately, it’s too low to be effective in a mix. Best to have another one.
Kids today are glued to games on their cell phones.
If Chuck Berry had a cell phone, he might have called it my ding-a-ling. His only Billboard number one single. Hard to understand that one. It was released in July 1972.
If Chuck Berry had a cell phone, he might have called it my ding-a-ling. His only Billboard number one single. Hard to understand that one. It was released in July 1972.
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I can see the pretty little lights
I can see those just by shutting my eyes.
One o' these(actually 2):[Invalid or Expired Link Removed]^^^
I’m a Snark kinda guy myself.
It is strange. I would have thought, maybe, 'No Particular Place to Go', but I would have been wrong.
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I thought it was a play on words relative to "Hi Fi", albeit sort of oddly phrased.Ummm, did anyone notice that it's called the Small Fri but someone left out the "r"?
Peterson Stroboclip HD is good for on the fly. I have a couple of bench models and this works very well in comparison. The others have more features.
I also use a Peterson tuning app on my iPad at home. It uses the ipad’s mic.
I also use a Peterson tuning app on my iPad at home. It uses the ipad’s mic.
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While I still have the larger tuners, these little head-stock jobs work very nicely for a quick on-stage check. You can also simply pass it over to someone playing out of tune who has no clue and without saying word communicate your message.
Thanks, I'm hoping to add an HPF to my rig soon too but haven't been sure what to look for that's affordable.Hi AL,
I watched the eBay listing demo video. Based on the video and comparing it to my HPF, from what I hear, it won't do as much as you'll want/need it to. I mean it does cut some bass but, seems to me, way not like an HPF slope.
I suggest putting the $25 towards an adjustable Broughton always-on HPF or the fDeck v.3(battery and wall powered). Total, around $100, including the separately purchased power supply. Buy once, cry once.
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