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[alaskaleftybass]

Ketchup is very good for you. Tomatoes that are cooked under pressure transforms them in a positive way, antioxidants are released.


Tomato ketchup: five surprising health benefits

Honestly, @beans-on-toast I can't imagine NOT having ketchup! One of my favorite sinful dips (wife won't let me do it very often due to fat) is mayonnaise and ketchup with salty fries. Sinfully tasty but probably goes straight for the arteries! YIKES!

 

[Haroldo]

Ketchup is very good for you. Tomatoes that are cooked under pressure transforms them in a positive way, antioxidants are released.

Tomato ketchup: five surprising health benefits

Let me start out by saying I really like tomatoes in every way, shape, and form with the exception of ketchup used as a disguise. Further, it's a science fact that condiment discussion inflames the passions.

(ETA: The reason I looked at the Telegraph article was that I was genuinely curious.)

"Eating tomato sauce two or more times a week reduces a man’s risk of developing prostate cancer by around 20 per cent, Invalid Link Removed of 47,000 men."

As a former long term Australian resident, I can say with certainty tomato sauce is not the same as ketchup; I don't know if the Telegraph reporter was being sloppy with terminology. Further, the Harvard Med Watch linked up above in the article is not the 2002 study, but rather deals with replacing animal fats and refined carbs as the way to prostate health. Key finding:

The findings suggest that a key dietary step to fight prostate cancer is replacing animal fats and refined carbohydrates with healthier vegetable fats from foods such as avocados, walnuts, and soybean, canola, and olive oils. Men who do this may be less likely to develop aggressive and more dangerous prostate cancer, as opposed to the slow-growing, low-risk type that many men die with but not from.

And for what it's worth, the Telegraph was Boris Johnson's former employer.

 

[SoulReflection]

Honestly, @beans-on-toast I can't imagine NOT having ketchup! One of my favorite sinful dips (wife won't let me do it very often due to fat) is mayonnaise and ketchup with salty fries. Sinfully tasty but probably goes straight for the arteries! YIKES!

Don't forget malt vinegar on them fries .

 

[beans-on-toast]

Let me start out by saying I really like tomatoes in every way, shape, and form with the exception of ketchup used as a disguise. Further, it's a science fact that condiment discussion inflames the passions.

"Eating tomato sauce two or more times a week reduces a man’s risk of developing prostate cancer by around 20 per cent, Invalid Link Removed of 47,000 men."

As a former long term Australian resident, I can say with certainty tomato sauce is not the same as ketchup; I don't know if the Telegraph reporter was being sloppy with terminology. Further, the Harvard Med Watch linked up above in the article is not the 2002 study, but rather deals with replacing animal fats and refined carbs as the way to prostate health. Key finding:

The findings suggest that a key dietary step to fight prostate cancer is replacing animal fats and refined carbohydrates with healthier vegetable fats from foods such as avocados, walnuts, and soybean, canola, and olive oils. Men who do this may be less likely to develop aggressive and more dangerous prostate cancer, as opposed to the slow-growing, low-risk type that many men die with but not from.

And for what it's worth, the Telegraph was Boris Johnson's former employer.

Thanks for the info. You’ve mentioned that the subject hits close to home.

What I was trying to get at was canned tomatoes, what is often used in sauces and ketchup are both processed in a pressure cooker. They don’t taste the same.

This transforms the tomatoes making them a better source of lycopene for example. Though eating them raw is also good, what’s in the skin and seeds is released under pressure. It’s apparently better when pressure cooked as part of the preparation.

 

[beans-on-toast]

Honestly, @beans-on-toast I can't imagine NOT having ketchup! One of my favorite sinful dips (wife won't let me do it very often due to fat) is mayonnaise and ketchup with salty fries. Sinfully tasty but probably goes straight for the arteries! YIKES!

Learning to do without the salt is a step forward. Pepper is a good substitute as it adds flavor.

 

[Haroldo]

Thanks for that.

What I was trying to get at was canned tomatoes, what is often used in sauces and ketchup are both processed in a pressure cooker. They don’t taste the same.

This transforms the tomatoes making them a better source of lycopene for example. Though eating them raw is also good, what’s in the skin and seeds is released under pressure. It’s apparently better when pressure cooked as part of the preparation.

InstaPot Equivalent to the rescue. Our old, creaky kitchen is getting fixed up. Soon, tho', the InstaPot Equivalent will have pride of place and it'll be time to make tons o' sauce.

 

[alaskaleftybass]

Thanks for that.

What I was trying to get at was canned tomatoes, what is often used in sauces and ketchup are both processed in a pressure cooker. They don’t taste the same.

This transforms the tomatoes making them a better source of lycopene for example. Though eating them raw is also good, what’s in the skin and seeds is released under pressure. It’s apparently better when pressure cooked as part of the preparation.

Slight derail here-- when I was in Army boot camp, we had an old timey drill sergeant. We ate WWII rations in OD Green cans that were heated with kerosene heaters and water in garbage cans! Pretty scientific! LOL

He let us know that the companies that created the rations for us cooked those canned meals in huge slow cookers for up to 8 hours. It was like slow cooking, actually it was. He said the food in the cans was some of the most nutritious cooking we would ever have. The juices contained all the nutritious good stuff that were in the food and that's what made the meals so good for us...

Back to your normal programming.....

 

[Haroldo]

Slight derail here-- when I was in the Army boot camp, we had an old timey drill sergeant. We ate WWII rations in OD Green cans that were heated with kerosene heaters and water in garbage cans! Pretty scientific! LOL

He let us know that the companies that created the rations for us cooked those canned meals in huge slow cookers for up to 8 hours. It was like slow cooking, actually it was. He said the food in the cans was some of the most nutritious cooking we would ever have. The juices contained all the nutritious good stuff that were in the food and that's what made the meals so good for us...

Back to your normal programming.....

I'm guessing the DI made the food, er, spicier with his Gov't Issue language. At least I hope so.

 

[GonePlaid]

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[alaskaleftybass]

Here's a generic pic of our Army gourmet cooking equipment!

 

[GwenOnBass]

Ketchup is very good for you. Tomatoes that are cooked under pressure transforms them in a positive way, antioxidants are also released.


Tomato ketchup: five surprising health benefits

Good for me it may be, but in my system will never be.

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Even as a child, refused to eat any prepared tomato sauce. No marinara or red gravy (what they say in Chicago), basically nothing tomato-y beyond raw tomatoes. That includes pizza, unless it's white pizza

Learning to do without the salt is a step forward. Pepper is a good substitute as it adds flavor.

What I observe when I cook for guests is when I announce at the table I don't cook with salt, guests put salt on their food before they even taste it. At last measurement (a couple weeks ago) my blood pressure was 106/65.

Slight derail here-- when I was in Army boot camp, we had an old timey drill sergeant. We ate WWII rations in OD Green cans that were heated with kerosene heaters and water in garbage cans! Pretty scientific! LOL

He let us know that the companies that created the rations for us cooked those canned meals in huge slow cookers for up to 8 hours. It was like slow cooking, actually it was. He said the food in the cans was some of the most nutritious cooking we would ever have. The juices contained all the nutritious good stuff that were in the food and that's what made the meals so good for us...

Back to your normal programming.....

What I see among those who spent time in the service is they eat very rapidly. It's my understanding that if you're in the service and don't eat fast, you're going to miss your meal. Then it becomes something of a habit. Happy to report none has ever set a time limit on my meal time.

 

[alaskaleftybass]

What I see among those who spent time in the service is they eat very rapidly. It's my understanding that if you're in the service and don't eat fast, you're going to miss your meal. Then it becomes something of a habit. Happy to report none has ever set a time limit on my meal time.

Glad to say wife Carey has broken me of the habit of "wolfing down" my food!

 

[Haroldo]

Here's a generic pic of our Army gourmet cooking equipment!

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I can suss out the garbage can, but what's the black cylindrical thing that kinda looks like an outboard motor?

 

[GwenOnBass]

Let me start out by saying I really like tomatoes in every way, shape, and form with the exception of ketchup used as a disguise. Further, it's a science fact that condiment discussion inflames the passions.

(ETA: The reason I looked at the Telegraph article was that I was genuinely curious.)

"Eating tomato sauce two or more times a week reduces a man’s risk of developing prostate cancer by around 20 per cent, Invalid Link Removed of 47,000 men."

As a former long term Australian resident, I can say with certainty tomato sauce is not the same as ketchup; I don't know if the Telegraph reporter was being sloppy with terminology. Further, the Harvard Med Watch linked up above in the article is not the 2002 study, but rather deals with replacing animal fats and refined carbs as the way to prostate health. Key finding:

The findings suggest that a key dietary step to fight prostate cancer is replacing animal fats and refined carbohydrates with healthier vegetable fats from foods such as avocados, walnuts, and soybean, canola, and olive oils. Men who do this may be less likely to develop aggressive and more dangerous prostate cancer, as opposed to the slow-growing, low-risk type that many men die with but not from.

And for what it's worth, the Telegraph was Boris Johnson's former employer.

<- no known association with The Telegraph. But I hear they put ketchup on their readers.

 

[Haroldo]

<- no known association with The Telegraph. But I hear they put ketchup on their readers.

I know it's difficult for its readers to catch up, but why are they doused in ketchup?

 

[Haroldo]

Glad to say wife Carey has broken me of the habit of "wolfing down" my food!

Congratulations! That's a tough habit to break. I can only do it with super human concentration.

 

[GonePlaid]

I know it's difficult for its readers to catch up, but why are they doused in ketchup?

 

[Haroldo]

Even as a child, refused to eat any prepared tomato sauce. No marinara or red gravy (what they say in Chicago), basically nothing tomato-y beyond raw tomatoes.

You are not unlike my younger brother, 'cept his hated food was/is brussel sprouts.

 

[GwenOnBass]

I know it's difficult for its readers to catch up, but why are they doused in ketchup?

Gotta be on the sauce to read The Telegraph

 

[GwenOnBass]

Thanks for that.

What I was trying to get at was canned tomatoes, what is often used in sauces and ketchup are both processed in a pressure cooker. They don’t taste the same.

This transforms the tomatoes making them a better source of lycopene for example. Though eating them raw is also good, what’s in the skin and seeds is released under pressure. It’s apparently better when pressure cooked as part of the preparation.

Are people who buy pressure cookers still being put on a suspect list?