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Getting That Smooth Rap Tone.......

What FX would I need to get the that smooth rap tone. Ya know, the one that kicks some sub @$$ :smug:

I'm hoping to use some simple and non-digital FX for that.

I'm thinking that some optical compression (eg. Punch Factory) and EQ/Tube Emulation (eg. SansAmp) would do it, but I'd like some opinions :D
From what I've read, the Para Driver has a compressed type of tone to it and might be just the thing (opinions???)

EDIT: oh, if you need an example, Mike Jones - "Back Then" is the song that inspired this thread.....
 
mactac said:
I use a DOD FX25 envelope filter. I set it so that it doesn't open up, Bill Laswell style.

Doing this gives you a really bassy, smooth dubby sound.

they are pretty cheap used as well...

+1

It has nothing to do with Octave pedals, or playing low notes.

You really have to try the FX25. It is the only effect I use. Turn both knobs down, kick it on, and nothing but phat low bass tones. It works very well for me when I use my P-bass w/ flats and play up near the 9th - 12th frets.