I also should mention that Ivy League presented a unified and happy front to the world, but we had some huge fights behind the scenes, about 1 a year. The problem was the drummer and the chick singer were like 2 cats in a sack. The husband and the wife occasionally fought, and once or twice the band got drug into it, but we managed to work things out, and continue on. Somehow, I always wound up being the diplomat in the band, trying to smooth things over and resolve differences. I usually succeeded, but at a cost to me (lost sleep, upset stomach, the usual), and the one time I wanted to date someone the others didn't approve of, I was threatened with expulsion from the band if I did date her. I managed to resolve that, but lost the girl....