Groovy. Fender flats are more along the line of a Sea Foam Green.
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If it's anything like the green on the package, then it would be darker and richer than the Fender green, which is pretty bright.
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Well that's the hope, but the color on the screen image as compared to the printed label as compared to the actual silk in this particular dye lot is another story entirely.
How is the feel compared to Round Core Boomers? I recently fell in love with those. I was a Boomer user for years but as I got older I needed something more supple. RC Boomers fit the bill perfectly. Please tell me these new strings compare.
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They're going to feel pretty similar, if not slightly more tactile (the core diameters are different).
I can't wait to read some reviews from TBers. I've used Boomers many times, but not for years. My string journey took me all over the place until I landed on my "go to" Ken Smith NPS 40-100 Burners. I strayed long enough to hop on the Dunlop Super Brights bandwagon, but those didn't do it for me at all.
So .... if anyone can tell me how these new GHS strings compare to either of those I mentioned, I'd love to hear about it. I have a new bass coming in 9 weeks, so maybe I'll slap a set of Balanced Nickels on it right off the bat.
So .... if anyone can tell me how these new GHS strings compare to either of those I mentioned, I'd love to hear about it. I have a new bass coming in 9 weeks, so maybe I'll slap a set of Balanced Nickels on it right off the bat.
The link I have is still showing the March 2017 version. Is it supposed to have been updated?
http://www.ghsrep.net/uploads/2/2/2/5/22258814/ghs_bass_string_guide.pdf
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You may have to refresh your browser, delete cookies, etc.. as it's showing up as Sept 17 on this end.
For those who care about tension numbers, here are a few interesting comparisons.
Balanced Nickel 4L-NB:
G 040 - 43.2 lbs.
D 056 - 42.9
A 076 - 43.5
E 101 - 42.7
Total: 172.3 lbs.
Balanced Nickel 4M-NB:
G 044 - 47.5 lbs.
D 060 - 46.1
A 080 - 45.8
E 106 - 44.8
Total 184.2 lbs.
Round Core Boomer RC-M3045:
G 045 - 37.3 lbs.
D 065 - 46.0
A 085 - 49.3
E 105 - 40.8
Total: 173.4 lbs.
Round Core Boomer Custom Balanced:
G 045 - 37.3 lbs.
D 060 - 37.9
A 080 - 43.2
E 105 - 40.8
Total: 159.2 lbs.
Hex-core Boomer M3045:
G 045 - 44.8 lbs.
D 065 - 50.1
A 085 - 49.4
E 105 - 42.2
Total: 186.5 lbs.
Hex-core Boomer Custom Balanced:
G 045 - 44.8 lbs.
D 060 - 42.2
A 080 - 45.0
E 105 - 42.2
Total: 174.2 lbs.
Balanced Nickel 4L-NB:
G 040 - 43.2 lbs.
D 056 - 42.9
A 076 - 43.5
E 101 - 42.7
Total: 172.3 lbs.
Balanced Nickel 4M-NB:
G 044 - 47.5 lbs.
D 060 - 46.1
A 080 - 45.8
E 106 - 44.8
Total 184.2 lbs.
Round Core Boomer RC-M3045:
G 045 - 37.3 lbs.
D 065 - 46.0
A 085 - 49.3
E 105 - 40.8
Total: 173.4 lbs.
Round Core Boomer Custom Balanced:
G 045 - 37.3 lbs.
D 060 - 37.9
A 080 - 43.2
E 105 - 40.8
Total: 159.2 lbs.
Hex-core Boomer M3045:
G 045 - 44.8 lbs.
D 065 - 50.1
A 085 - 49.4
E 105 - 42.2
Total: 186.5 lbs.
Hex-core Boomer Custom Balanced:
G 045 - 44.8 lbs.
D 060 - 42.2
A 080 - 45.0
E 105 - 42.2
Total: 174.2 lbs.
Here's another comparison:
Balanced Nickel 4M-NB, 44-60-80-106 = Total tension 184.2 lbs.
Boomers (hex) Custom Balanced, 45-60-80-105 = Total tension 174.2 lbs.
Precision Flats CM3050, 45-60-80-105 = Total tension 174.1 lbs.
Round Core Boomer Custom Balanced, 45-60-80-105 = Total tension 159.2 lbs.
Balanced Nickel 4M-NB, 44-60-80-106 = Total tension 184.2 lbs.
Boomers (hex) Custom Balanced, 45-60-80-105 = Total tension 174.2 lbs.
Precision Flats CM3050, 45-60-80-105 = Total tension 174.1 lbs.
Round Core Boomer Custom Balanced, 45-60-80-105 = Total tension 159.2 lbs.
A question for @Jon Moody ...
I've read a few posts in the past concerning "pure nickel" having a lower output than "nickel-plated steel". For example, Fender 7150 vs. 7250.
What has been your experience so far with these new Balanced Nickels vs. Round Core Boomers in terms of overall output?
I've read a few posts in the past concerning "pure nickel" having a lower output than "nickel-plated steel". For example, Fender 7150 vs. 7250.
What has been your experience so far with these new Balanced Nickels vs. Round Core Boomers in terms of overall output?
Remember that tension and stiffness are two different things. The nickel will cause higher tension but they can have much less stiffness due to construction.
Yes, I do understand the difference between "tension" and "stiffness".
I presented the numbers because I thought it was interesting GHS chose to go heavier with the core size for the Balanced Nickels than the Round Core Boomers.
Not necessarily. Do you know that for a fact? All else being equal, pure nickel will cause more tension than nickel plated steel.
why would that be? nickel is a softer metal than steel.
Well, lead is softer still but more massive nonetheless.
To be fair, nickel is indeed reported by several sources as having a higher specific weight than stainless steel (or, to be precise, than the weight range of various SS alloys):
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Would that alone account for the difference in tension between the new strings vs. the round core Boomers, without any need to assume a larger core? I have no idea. (But my hunch is no, if the nickel one is only the outer wrap.) And neither do I know if "same number of wraps" means that they managed to use more than one on the G string, which Mr. Moody once said to be difficult to obtain (but he didn't say impossible, IIRC). Also, how does the number of wraps on the G string correlate with this core debate? are the wraps much thinner than is usual? Again, beats me.
