Actually this is pretty amazing, and may be the most balanced set of electric bass guitar strings in existence. Every string is no more than a half a pound away from 43. That's incredible really.
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Agreed!
Looking at the numbers, I'm actually thinking of trying the 40-101 set first on my P as the total tension turns out to be within a couple of pounds of the last two sets of strings that have been on it. PW ML7200 = 169.3 lbs. Boomers Custom (45-60-80-105) = 174.2 lbs.
Here's one more comparison... (Yes, I'm a numbers addict.)
Hex-core Boomer L3045:
G 040 - 33.6
D 055 - 35.2
A 075 - 35.9
E 095 - 36.1
Total: 140.8 lbs.
I like what I'm seeing here. I'l have to give them a try when they hit the stores. Lately I've been using and liking the D'Addario balanced tension strings. I'm sold on the balanced tension idea for sure.
Good to see this. The gauges do tend to reflect the often recommended 'equal tension sets' 45 60 80 105 and 40 55 75 100.
The 5 string sets seem to have a looser B looking at the gauges, although of course it's the mass that counts. I'm assuming an equal tension B was considered too much of a shock to include (105 140 or 100 135), understandable since loose Bs are so popular.
The 5 string sets seem to have a looser B looking at the gauges, although of course it's the mass that counts. I'm assuming an equal tension B was considered too much of a shock to include (105 140 or 100 135), understandable since loose Bs are so popular.
No the tone of a string has nothing to do with pitch. If you tighten a strong to get a brighter sound it will then be above the desired pitch.
What I meant was there's obviously a correlation between the tone of the material and the tension of the strings at pitch. I'm hypothesizing that in order to bring a pure nickel string up to the same pitch as a stainless one, you actually end up tightening it a bit more. I'm not sure if that's the best way to word it.
While I'm completely satisfied with my Pressurewounds and Bass Boomers, it's exciting to see GHS expand their product line, and I look forward to read about people's thoughts on how they sound and feel.
But PLEASE tell me that "IF" a Round Core/Balanced Tension Pressurewound set becomes a reality, that the current Pressurewound set will continue to be made!
@Jon Moody
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I can't guarantee that. As much as I'd like to keep everything we've ever made, numbers are going to influence what stays/goes. I'm not one to put out a set that cannibalizes another, so there's that.
Yes in a way, but this is change of tone brightness due to tension, not due to material.
But this doesn't follow from that, the tension needed for a certain pitch is only determined by string mass and scale length.
http://www.daddario.com/upload/tension_chart_13934.pdf
Page 4.
This is patently false. Just check out the tension figures in the GHS Tension Guide and you'll have the truth at your fingertips. Notice how low the tension is for these new pure nickel wrapped rounds.
Close. Core diameter and shape are in play bigtime. Yes a larger hex core is going to give greater mass. As Jon once said something like 'it's really easy to design a stiff string'. While stiffness is not tension, I'm sure it's much easier to design a high tension string than a lower tension string much less such an extremely well tension balanced set such as these new pure nickel rounds.
We should start a separate thread about sources of string tension. It can't be mass alone as the both low E and B strings are usually the lowest tension of most sets. And normally the stiffest as it is far easier to bend a G string than an E. It's an enigma!
Assuming that formula is all that's needed, the mass of pure nickel must be different from stainless steel, and nickel plated steel must be somewhere in between.
The three materials must have different densities and weights when cut to the same proportions.
The tension guide doesn't describe differences in construction. We can only talk about differences caused by different materials when all else is equal.
LOL!
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Has a professional string winder made any statements in regard to this? Has anyone said their stainless steel strings are made exactly the same way as their nickel plated or pure nickel strings? Same number of wraps, same core diameters, etc.
No, exact, because i wrote 'string mass' and that contains any mass change caused by core design. Core diameter and shape are irrelevant once you know the string's 'unit weight' (mass per unit length, usually in pounds per inch).
See the D'Addario pdf, tension is determined only by unit weight, scale length and pitch. E and B can be low tension despite being much higher mass because they are at a lower pitch.
They can have yes, which would effect tension even if gauge and construction is identical.
That's irrelevant once you know the unit weight, scale length and pitch, only those determine tension. Physics backs up D'Addario's pdf and i learnt to derive that string equation in high school.
Fyi...
While we're on the subject of string tension, it is worth noting that the tension numbers presented in the GHS Tension Guide are real-life numbers measured by a special tension-weighing device; they're not simply based on a mathematical formula. This according to @Jon Moody ...
I don't know how D'Addario comes up with their tension numbers.
While we're on the subject of string tension, it is worth noting that the tension numbers presented in the GHS Tension Guide are real-life numbers measured by a special tension-weighing device; they're not simply based on a mathematical formula. This according to @Jon Moody ...
I don't know how D'Addario comes up with their tension numbers.
- Sep 9, 2007
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I weigh the strings using a scale (if that's what you want to call a "special tension-weighing device"), and get hard numbers for the mass. Then, using the scale length and pitch, we find out the tension.
Sounds like I misinterpreted what you said in our previous conversation. I was imagining a device that measures the actual pulling weight of a string as it is tuned up to pitch.
Sorry, folks, you can disregard what I said in post# 78.
