I've got two Victory's and they're both perfectly balanced - albeit heavy. Maybe your husband had one of the exceptionally rare ones with a low weight body?
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Gibson neck dive....not my Gibsons
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I've got two Victory's and they're both perfectly balanced - albeit heavy. Maybe your husband had one of the exceptionally rare ones with a low weight body?
huh.... he doesn't have it any more, and i recall it being fairly heavy. still, both he and i couldn't play it standing up without holding up the neck with the fretting hand. he bought it used - maybe someone moved the strap pegs or something.
Big grippy straps.... No nosedive ever.
I use nice Franklin 2.5 or 3" straps you get at GC for $39.95 on sale. No issues with a TBird or any other bass.
A good strap is the key IMO...
I use nice Franklin 2.5 or 3" straps you get at GC for $39.95 on sale. No issues with a TBird or any other bass.
A good strap is the key IMO...
I agree with you. I think a lot of the problem with some is the position of the top strap pin on the upper bout rather than the base of the neck. I have two RDs and the pin is at the base of the neck- they balance fine. Also have two Victorys and they balance fine as well. I have a 74 Ripper and it balances fine.
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That's odd. I've owned two Victory basses and both had such a heavy bodies that there's no way the neck would dive. The one that I currently have is my main and is in line with any Fender as far as neck dive goes.
The topic of Victory's comes up so rarely that I had to defend. Sorry for the derail.
I have the 2015 Gibson T'Bird with a wide unpadded leather strap and I have absolutely no problem with neck dive. The bass is not as heavy as I initially thought it would be and it seems to be pretty well balanced.
Pins are in the stock locations.Photoshopped? LoL Straps are just plain leather Stagg straps that I bought today at a local music store on the way home from work today.On my other SG I have a Levy's strap and on my Epi I have a black suede strap and the button is on the horn and it doesn't go anywhere.I did swap the black tuners for some chrome ones on it though.Don't know if they are any lighter though.That wasn't a factor when I ordered them.I just wanted chrome.
...and in this case, the OP has a little more strap-to-body contact than the usual male player would. Gender offers an advantage in this case.
That said, it's also easier to balance things out when you tilt to a near 45 degree angle and stand still for a photo. I don't hold the neck at that severe an angle, so when the neck is already lower - say 30 degrees - it's easier to continue dipping as you move around.
My Jack Casady had serious neck dive. A 3" wide glove leather strap by Franklin Strapp purchased at GC for $55 solved the problem and allowed me to play for long sets with no discomfort. 
If you angle the headstock upward, it reduces or eliminates the amount of dive. If you like your neck more horizontal, it increases the likelihood of dive. As stated previously, a grip surface strap and lighter tuners usually prevent or reduce dive. I play a more horizontal neck position, put Hipshot ultralights on my Tbird, problem solved.
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Every single T-bird and every single SG bass that I have ever played suffered from neck dive. I have never seen a single one that didn't.
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I absolutely love mine, and would buy another for a fretless conversion. (if I could find one, that is)
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Exactly. Your basses aren't balanced. You're just using a strap that doesn't slide.
You've mistake balance with "not able to move due to a strap that doesn't slide". Throw a cheap nylon strap on there. Those mofos will slam their headstocks into the floor.
