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Gibson Ripper Club!

How good is the Ripper?


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You can top load it. I don't. I have heard of that causing the lugs in the body to loosen, That's an expensive repair. The guy that owned Rockin Robin in Houston suggested I top load it because he did not sell RotoSounds long enough for the Ripper. I asked if he would be willing to do the repair. He said it might snow some. The shorter sets back then would all feed through the body except for the E string.
Why would you want to top load the strings? Can't get stings long enough?
 
Who makes decent instrument cords? Years ago I paid a lot for a Peavey Cord. Lasted 20 years. Next one lasted about a year. I then bought a Fender lifetime guaranteed cord for a lot of money. Lasted 2 years. Had to argue withe the seller to get it replaced. Replacement came w/limited warranty. Lasted 1 year. I found out what was wrong with them - made in china. I am back to buying the cheapest I can get. No sense paying more for less.

Does anybody make a reliable cord? Flexibility is # 2 requirement. I really do not want to roll my own.
 
Hi guys,

Proud new owner of a 1974 Gibson Ripper in natural with a maple neck!

The bass currently has Daddario NYXLs on them (45-105) regular long scale, top loaded. This is how the bass came when I picked it up.

I want to put new strings on because this gauge is a bit too heavy for me and prefer light/medium light gauges.

Can anyone recommend some good strings that pair with a ripper?

I play Rock (everything from classic rock through to Alternative/Hard Rock/Grunge/indie Rock), so looking for a nice set of roundwounds that will fit the part. I play both Fingerstyle and with a Pick.

Will Steel strings damage the frets on the Ripper? I'm a fairly light player but can dig in and get a little heavy handed at times.

I just read above that it's safer to string thru the body rather than top loading like it is at present. In that case, do extra long scale strings only fit the bass when strung thru the body?

I must add, that I prefer lower tension stings if possible!

Any advice would be much appreciated!

Mike
 
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Hi guys,

Proud new owner of a 1974 Gibson Ripper in natural with a maple neck!

Nice score! I bought mine new in ‘74 and it’s still going strong. Welcome to the club. We the few, the proud, the often mocked for our taste, welcome you our fellowship. :thumbsup:

The bass currently has Daddario NYXLs on them (45-105) regular long scale, top loaded. This is how the bass came when I picked it up.

I want to put new strings on because this gauge is a bit too heavy for me and prefer light/medium light gauges.

Can anyone recommend some good strings that pair with a ripper?

I play Rock (everything from classic rock through to Alternative/Hard Rock/Grunge/indie Rock), so looking for a nice set of roundwounds that will fit the part. I play both Fingerstyle and with a Pick.

I’m one of those people that believes there’s an ideal string set for every bass. And finding the ideal set can become an expensive hobby. :laugh:

FWIW I really don’t like the blah (to me) sound or feel of NYXLs despite all the good things said about them. I tried a set. They lasted one day before I pulled them. My guitarist SO also loaded a set on one of her Strats. And they were back off in less than an hour.

I personally think Rotosound 66 Swing Bass strings really bring out the character in a Ripper. And that’s what I usually use. But more recently I’ve tried a set of Kalium Hybrids (43/59/79/106) which really sing with those Bill Lawrence pickups. Bell like clarity without being clangy or too bright. And with some nice growl on tap if you want it. They also mellow out nicely over time.

One good thing about Kalium. They have a large assortment gauges in medium, standard, and long scale lengths. I highly recommend giving them a try.

Will Steel strings damage the frets on the Ripper? I'm a fairly light player but can dig in and get a little heavy handed at times.

They shouldn’t. I’ve got a light touch too. I’ve played mostly with steels on mine. And in 45 years of steady playing I’ve only needed to do the usual minor maintenance on the frets.

I just read above that it's safer to string thru the body rather than top loading like it is at present. In that case, do extra long scale strings only fit the bass when strung thru the body?

I can’t say I’ve ever found that to be the case. I’ve got two Rippers, which I’ll occasionally top string. And I know about a dozen other Ripper owners, half of whom routinely top string. And I never been told the were issues with the bridge posts pulling out. Not saying it can’t happen. But that’s a new one for me.

Biggest risk I’ve personally run into with top stringing on the 73-74 models which have individual ferrules is that you might have a ferrule fall out and get lost if no string is going through it. And that's because the string’s ball end wraps tend to snag a little when they’re removed. So the ferrules can eventually loosen. Which is probably why Gibson switched over to the anchor plate arrangement on the later models.

If you string through you’ll definitely need extra longs. Gibson uses a 34.5” scale length on the Ripper. So it’s already midway between a standard long and 35” scale. Something to keep in mind when buying strings. It’s a small difference. But it can sometimes catch you by surprise with some brands of string.
 
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Thanks for the reply! And the welcome! Glad to be aboard!

I must say, before I got my ripper everyone was saying how heavy they were. Mine is the lightest bass I own! (Also own a 2013 American standard jazz - the one in my picture and a 2008 Gibson Thunderbird), pleasantly surprising!

So you think I’ll be safe with standard Rotos (40-100) top loaded?

Really great to have the reassurance!
 
Hi guys,

Proud new owner of a 1974 Gibson Ripper in natural with a maple neck!

The bass currently has Daddario NYXLs on them (45-105) regular long scale, top loaded. This is how the bass came when I picked it up.

I want to put new strings on because this gauge is a bit too heavy for me and prefer light/medium light gauges.

Can anyone recommend some good strings that pair with a ripper?

I play Rock (everything from classic rock through to Alternative/Hard Rock/Grunge/indie Rock), so looking for a nice set of roundwounds that will fit the part. I play both Fingerstyle and with a Pick.

I use RotoSound RN 66LD Long Scale Swing Bass 66. Standard Gauge is 44 65 80 105. They are long enough to come through the body. Only available in stores at Guitar Center. Guitar Center told Roto do no sell to other stores or we will no sell your strings. You can get extra long scale RotoSounds on eBay, Amazon, etc. Apparently they are making the long scale long enough for the Ripper.

You might have to try different brands until you find the tone you like. Everyone has their own opinion about what sounds best.

Will Steel strings damage the frets on the Ripper? I'm a fairly light player but can dig in and get a little heavy handed at times.

Probably not. The original owner was a speed freak. Wore the frets down a little in several years LOL. I had it refretted about 10 years ago. No fret wear on my watch.


I just read above that it's safer to string thru the body rather than top loading like it is at present. In that case, do extra long scale strings only fit the bass when strung thru the body?

I must add, that I prefer lower tension stings if possible!

Any advice would be much appreciated!

Mike
 
You must not read "i don't want to roll mu own" Meaning I do not want to make my own. My soldering skills suck. Been there done that.

I did read it. But I suggested it anyway. Because you’re going to pay a small fortune buying cables that won’t be half as good as the ones you can make for yourself for about a quarter the cost. And these days, unless you spend major bucks, you’re not going to find cables of the quality you remember and still want to use.

How do I know?

I been there and done that too.

But then I decided to do something about it for myself rather than wait for the industry to go back to 1975 when Whirlwind first showed up and upped the game on instrument cables. :thumbsup:

(BTW, the only way your soldering skill can improve is to practice it like anything else.) :)
 
So what cable do you use?
What brand of plugs are you using, and where to get? All I can find is stereo, and that's at an electronics store.
What are you using to prevent tear out, I am extremely careful about handling my cords, but ...
 
Kalium Hybrids (43/59/79/106) which really sing with those Bill Lawrence pickups. Bell like clarity without being clangy or too bright. And with some nice growl on tap if you want it. They also mellow out nicely over time.

I am looking at the Kalium page. 4 types of Hybrids. What type and tension do you use? I use RotoSound RN 66LD Long Scale Swing Bass 66. Standard Gauge is 44 65 80 105 on my Ripper Bass, but a I don't think they sound like they used to. I used to have to get Extra Long scale just for one string, A I think but the longs are now long enough. I measured them at the store before I paid for them.
 
I am looking at the Kalium page. 4 types of Hybrids. What type and tension do you use? I use RotoSound RN 66LD Long Scale Swing Bass 66. Standard Gauge is 44 65 80 105 on my Ripper Bass, but a I don't think they sound like they used to. I used to have to get Extra Long scale just for one string, A I think but the longs are now long enough. I measured them at the store before I paid for them.


Agree that Rotos don’t sound quite like their 70s era counterparts.


The Kaliums are their balanced tension hybrids.

Product code: BH-106-4BS
 
You Need Long. You need to have 48-1/2' minimum. That's what I cut the A and D strings to if you string through the body. ..Used to need extra long, but the longs are long enough now.

I would highly recommend going through the back. It has been reported that those lugs can loosen up. That could be an expensive repair. Might have to wait a long time getting it done. An ounce of prevention...

Oh, I see you are going from the top. Standards, Don't know. probably.
 
You Need Long. You need to have 48-1/2' minimum. That's what I cut the A and D strings to if you string through the body. ..Used to need extra long, but the longs are long enough now.

I would highly recommend going through the back. It has been reported that those lugs can loosen up. That could be an expensive repair. Might have to wait a long time getting it done. An ounce of prevention...

Oh, I see you are going from the top. Standards, Don't know. probably.

This is what I’m worried about, doing any sort of damage to the bass by stringing through the bridge, so top loading.

Thing is, I like a lighter gauge and I’m not sure if some lighter gauge, extra long strings will be readily available (I’m from the UK) in strings that will pair well with the Ripper. The ones that seem to be available are D'Addario Nickels, D’Addario Prosteels and GHS Boomers in extra long scale. I’d like to try Rotos as ive heard good things, like @40Hz says. However, Rotosound only seem to do the lighter gauge I like (don’t get on with thicker gauge at all, due to the size and tension) in standard long scale, not extra long. Think I should go with one of the others if stringing thru the body is safer?
 
Thanks for the reply

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This is my preferred gauge - the hybrid set 40-100

I’ve come to prefer lighter gauged strings over the years. They don’t really lose any bottom. And their lower mass allows for greater string excursion even with a lighter touch (which is what the pickup senses: the string’s excursion rather than its mass) so they generally have a little more immediacy, snap and punch.

I mostly look for strings between 40-45 on the G and 100 on the E side these days. I’m ok with a 105 or 106 for my E, although I’d rather they were round cores if so. But that’s me.

Of course if I like the sound and feel of a string set that much, I’ll put up with heavier gauges. The LaBella Copper White Nylons are a good example since they’re one of my all time favorite strings. And the lightest they come in is: 50/65/85/105. Which sounds huge but is actually surprisingly comfortable to play.

So I guess it’s one of those things where you really need to assess each set on its own merits. I went through a phase where I must have bought close to half of what was out there just to try things out. It was an expensive exercise. But it was kinda fun. :)
 
This is what I’m worried about, doing any sort of damage to the bass by stringing through the bridge, so top loading.

Thing is, I like a lighter gauge and I’m not sure if some lighter gauge, extra long strings will be readily available (I’m from the UK) in strings that will pair well with the Ripper. The ones that seem to be available are D'Addario Nickels, D’Addario Prosteels and GHS Boomers in extra long scale. I’d like to try Rotos as ive heard good things, like @40Hz says. However, Rotosound only seem to do the lighter gauge I like (don’t get on with thicker gauge at all, due to the size and tension) in standard long scale, not extra long. Think I should go with one of the others if stringing thru the body is safer?

Wow you're in England. Just waltz up to their door and tell them what you want. I think I saw on their web site that you can special order strings in the gauges, etc that you want.

Might be able to get a 5 or 6 sting set and get the gauges you want. I like Roto's, but that 4 string set John Entwhistle came up with is not the same anymore. Different metal or something. Don't remember. Maybe 10 years ago I got a new set and it seemed a little different from what you heard in the 70's. I still use them.
 
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