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Gig Etiquette Rant...
- Thread starter neddyrow
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Never. You have every right to boot a doofus off your stage. In 35+ years of grimy punk shows, I’ve seen a LOT of faux pas, but never a band attempt to set up on stage WHILE the previous band is mid-set.
The stage manager should have shut him down. Unless they were far enough behind schedule that getting a jump on setting up the kit was the stage manager’s idea…
He had to be in his 60s..a senior moment, looking for his ensure?.....he should know better!
The stage manager should have fixed the problem but maybe they were the cause of it. Stage managers are usally either really good or really bad. Not much in between.
That was definetly rude, but what do you expect from a drummer!
Jazzdogg
Less barking, more wagging!
Sadly, etiquette is quickly becoming a thing of the past, while self-sacrifice and service to others are too often viewed as artifacts of a bygone era.
These days, I continually see the shrug of indifference to the needs of others, and hear the implicit shriek, "I've got mine; screw you!"
Too many are preoccupied with their "rights" while expressing little to nothing about their civic or social responsibilities.
I fear these are signs of a once-great society in collapse.
These days, I continually see the shrug of indifference to the needs of others, and hear the implicit shriek, "I've got mine; screw you!"
Too many are preoccupied with their "rights" while expressing little to nothing about their civic or social responsibilities.
I fear these are signs of a once-great society in collapse.
Yeah, I've also heard the "Got mine" nonsense a ton. Predominantly from my friends aging parents and the less than half a dozen that have grandparents still. YMMV
Initially OP's post confused me. I thought it was "He was loading on stage AS we were loading off" not "He was loading onto the stage AS we were playing". The first being fine if it's not causing trouble. The second is fairly rude and distracting.
I’m finding it’s the older folks as well.
If anything, most the young people are pretty elbows in when it comes to distance and other peoples space. There's a reason that there's a meme that's circulated a few times about how difficult it'd be to get the young millennial author to yell at wait/service staff. That they could be "brought a bowl of rats and the response would be 'Oh, sorry it would appear you've brought me someone elses rats'".
I thought so too. The drummer seemed to be known in the town and this was our first time playing this festival. Didn't want to make enemies. Luckily they liked our show and are putting us on the, Big Stage next year.
We were complimented by the sound guy and MC saying we were a much more "established" act than the other bands that played on the smaller stage so I think we are in good shape for next year.
Up until this point I was going to post something like "Cut the kid some slack, he is obviously super nervous before his first gig"... but even if that had been true, he would have needed to be given that lesson there and then.
You should've just left single pieces of gear on stage, maybe even stuff you didn't actually use for the gig, and then when he started playing, just come back up on stage and pick your things up. Do that a couple of times and maybe even go "oh sorry, I forgot this. Don't let me interrupt your playing!".
I'm a high school teacher and bartend at a college bar. I would have had no problem helping young folk the etiquette of how this works but that was not the case.
Might have been a peacocking dynamic. Sometimes the guys in the next band want to demonstrate that they are more important than the last band, this could be that.
More likely, the dude was oblivious. I certainly would have asked him to leave the stage. Nicely.
More likely, the dude was oblivious. I certainly would have asked him to leave the stage. Nicely.
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Unacceptable, hands down.
I play a winery that has a festival grounds and does large, multi-band events. Switch over is always a hustle as they only budget 30 min. Our drummer will set stuff up on the side of the stage and we help hoist it up there when it's time. Same is true of break down. We'll help the drummer move stuff off so he can disassemble off stage. NEVER would we get on stage while another act is playing.
I play a winery that has a festival grounds and does large, multi-band events. Switch over is always a hustle as they only budget 30 min. Our drummer will set stuff up on the side of the stage and we help hoist it up there when it's time. Same is true of break down. We'll help the drummer move stuff off so he can disassemble off stage. NEVER would we get on stage while another act is playing.
Not while someone is playing, hell no. However, we do a few benefit gigs a year where we play one set (about an hour) and play with multiple other bands. More often than not, once the previous band is done, they just lollygag because "the are done now". You usually get 20 minutes in between to set up (drums and vocal mics are the only things that are usually shared) and even though we are ridiculously fast at setup/teardown, thats pushing it. I normally wait for a bit and see whats going on with the previous band, but if its taking a long time, and it usually does, i have no problem taking my stuff up.
