Then. ...it's another band member on the a$$ end and me up onstage and pull that fecker up there using the rear mounted handle
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Gigging Musicians: Cabinet Choice
- Thread starter Acoustic356
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Just added the pic of my setup. The PJB C8 with Epifani Piccolo and Lorita Century bass.
ok, but its still a pretty heavy cab
Sure. .they are - all the NV's are. And I definitely ain't saying to lift where is inappropriate etc. ... get help. ..take a different cab/s etc. . If I DO come across a particularly high stage then it's someone on the bottom and me up top hoiking using the rear mounted top handle. There HAVE been plenty of times where the stage is 3 or 4' up and I'll put the NV up next to the stage and lift n slide it up- by myself (I probly shouldn't. ...but. .. again-get band mates to help. I sure do unless I'm there by myself - i.e. at an afternoon set up for a night gig etc. . but even then I'll try for a hotel worker to give a lil help.)
But these days , I'll generally take my 2 Neo loaded Bassman Pro 115 cabs .
It sure is great to have a choice!
yep, I agree. I pretty much use my CN212 (47lbs) for just about 90% of my gigs these days (Demeter 800D, Walkabout or Fender Studio on top).Sure. .they are - all the NV's are. And I definitely ain't saying to lift where is inappropriate etc. ... get help. ..take a different cab/s etc. . If I DO come across a particularly high stage then it's someone on the bottom and me up top hoiking using the rear mounted top handle. There HAVE been plenty of times where the stage is 3 or 4' up and I'll put the NV up next to the stage and lift n slide it up.
But these days , I'll generally take my 2 Neo loaded Bassman Pro 115 cabs .
It sure is great to have a choice!
When I get a bigger/louder/more rocking gig and there is no venue provided backline (maybe once every other month), I will turn out my NV610 - great sounding cab. But it is much more of a pain to lift than the CN212, that's all I'm saying.
Now, since I joined a regional Alt Country/Rock band in June, they have a Greyhound tour bus AND a small but dedicated road crew - so the NV610 lives in the bus storage space, and gets loaded in and out by the crew ... so, all good
The PF112hlf isn't nearly as deep in the lows as the PF115lf, and it has a tweeter, which in a strange twist of circumstances, I'm finding quite useful for upright, if not electric. It also doesn't take the power that the PF115lf will take. But I like its rolled off bottom end better. It puts me in the mind of my double baffle B-15 cabs.
Cool thread.
I mostly gig with a CN212 cab. I also have a CN210 that I use occasionally for smaller stuff, practice, etc.
I was using the 210 (or a single 15 before that cab) A LOT more when I lived in Austin, and was playing with more acoustic-ish bands, in smaller venues, and with bands who knew how to keep the stage volume down. Moved about 16 months ago, and the bands in my new home are way louder, venues are bigger, etc, and I pretty much take the 212 out all the time now.
I take one bass with me in a HSC (spare strings and multi tool in the case), and a aluminum brief case that has everything else (TH500 amp & cables, DI box, ext chord, 2 cables, Boss tuner, and a few other things). Really happy with that system - three items (bass, box & cab) that can cover pretty much any gig, fit perfect in my car, easy load in.
Since I've moved though, the folks I'm working with are just less professional than in Austin, and I've started carrying a messenger bag full of mic cables, mic, spare power chords, etc. Not bad, but annoying.
I've also not been very happy with the TH500 lately, and have been taking either my vintage bassman 100 amp, or a 3u rack with pre/power amp. Those two amps are heavy, but they sound good. The weight/ size does not really bother me. What does bother me, is now I'm bringing 5 items with me to a gig. Trying to figure a way to get that number down.
I mostly gig with a CN212 cab. I also have a CN210 that I use occasionally for smaller stuff, practice, etc.
I was using the 210 (or a single 15 before that cab) A LOT more when I lived in Austin, and was playing with more acoustic-ish bands, in smaller venues, and with bands who knew how to keep the stage volume down. Moved about 16 months ago, and the bands in my new home are way louder, venues are bigger, etc, and I pretty much take the 212 out all the time now.
I take one bass with me in a HSC (spare strings and multi tool in the case), and a aluminum brief case that has everything else (TH500 amp & cables, DI box, ext chord, 2 cables, Boss tuner, and a few other things). Really happy with that system - three items (bass, box & cab) that can cover pretty much any gig, fit perfect in my car, easy load in.
Since I've moved though, the folks I'm working with are just less professional than in Austin, and I've started carrying a messenger bag full of mic cables, mic, spare power chords, etc. Not bad, but annoying.
I've also not been very happy with the TH500 lately, and have been taking either my vintage bassman 100 amp, or a 3u rack with pre/power amp. Those two amps are heavy, but they sound good. The weight/ size does not really bother me. What does bother me, is now I'm bringing 5 items with me to a gig. Trying to figure a way to get that number down.
TecAmp S212 Classic
Width: 17.4"
Height: 29.6"
Depth: 16.2"
Weight: 44 pounds
This cab is really easy to move to/from my weekly Saturday gig. The S212 Classic sounds excellent and has ceramic speakers (not NEO). It has a big sound for its size and is very affordable direct from TecAmpUSA.com (S 212 Classic - TecAmp). I bought a Carvin DB35 Dolly Board which fits/works perfectly with the cab ([Invalid or Expired Link Removed]).
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Width: 17.4"
Height: 29.6"
Depth: 16.2"
Weight: 44 pounds
This cab is really easy to move to/from my weekly Saturday gig. The S212 Classic sounds excellent and has ceramic speakers (not NEO). It has a big sound for its size and is very affordable direct from TecAmpUSA.com (S 212 Classic - TecAmp). I bought a Carvin DB35 Dolly Board which fits/works perfectly with the cab ([Invalid or Expired Link Removed]).
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Genzler BA12-3 times 2 with a Magellan head or Genz Benz shuttle6.0/12t combo.
For years I did Euphonic audio cabs, upright gigs were vl 110 39lbs, doubling gigs were cxl 112 45lbs, loud electric only 1-2 cxl 112
Now I use Tc electronic cabs. Rs 112x 2 and rs210x1
Upright, doubling, or most corporate things 1 rs112. 30lbs
Outdoor or louder club gig 2 x rs112
Need to be heard with no subs is rs 1x12 x2 with cross over driving them lows only and highs through rs 210
Now I use Tc electronic cabs. Rs 112x 2 and rs210x1
Upright, doubling, or most corporate things 1 rs112. 30lbs
Outdoor or louder club gig 2 x rs112
Need to be heard with no subs is rs 1x12 x2 with cross over driving them lows only and highs through rs 210
Large stage gigs: two Barefaced FR800 cabs (self-powered Big Baby 2, 33 lbs. each), with Noble preamp
Smaller stage: one FR800 with Noble
Real small stage: Phil Jones C8 (48 lbs. but on wheels), with Quilter Bass Block 800 (4 lbs. or thereabouts)
Quiet gigs: Acoustic Image Ten2 EX (23 lbs.) with Acoustic Image Clarus SL (just under 3 lbs.)
The Mesa Strategy (49 lbs.) and Mesa Powerhouse 412 (136 lbs.) sounded great, but about a year ago, after a painful back tweak while loading the cab into the truck, and then still having to go back and lift the Strategy (no help, bandmates had already left), I was done. No regrets, I'm very happy with all of the rigs above, and so is my back.
Smaller stage: one FR800 with Noble
Real small stage: Phil Jones C8 (48 lbs. but on wheels), with Quilter Bass Block 800 (4 lbs. or thereabouts)
Quiet gigs: Acoustic Image Ten2 EX (23 lbs.) with Acoustic Image Clarus SL (just under 3 lbs.)
The Mesa Strategy (49 lbs.) and Mesa Powerhouse 412 (136 lbs.) sounded great, but about a year ago, after a painful back tweak while loading the cab into the truck, and then still having to go back and lift the Strategy (no help, bandmates had already left), I was done. No regrets, I'm very happy with all of the rigs above, and so is my back.
I use two Traynor TC112 cabinets. Each of them weighs 25lbs. They sound great, and my shoulder and back are thrilled.
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fEARful 15/6/1 (~63 lbs) or for smaller gigs, fEARful 12/6/1 cube (~42 lbs). Can add second 15/6/1 or a 15sub.
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Tecamp M212 47lbs. or an old Horizon 2x10 (at least 24 yrs old) it's MDF but sounds great and has lasted about 40lbs.
I guess I qualify, even though I play at churches. My church and several of the ones I sub at are going away from the no amps on stage mania.
I use two different rigs, depending on the size of the church. Mine seats about 1400 and I use an Accugroove Tri-115L and crank it. Small churches I use an Accugroove Tri112L. Same head for both - Darkglass M900. I also have a Glockenklang Blue Sky (current for sale), a HeartCore and a Genz Benz Streamliner 900 for backup. Since I switched to Accugrooves I see no reason to change - the 115 weighs 45Lbs and the 112 weighs 32 and they sound better (to my ears!) than the Bergantinos and others they replaced.
I constantly get very positive comments about the sound of the rig but it is not a cheap option.
Dan
I use two different rigs, depending on the size of the church. Mine seats about 1400 and I use an Accugroove Tri-115L and crank it. Small churches I use an Accugroove Tri112L. Same head for both - Darkglass M900. I also have a Glockenklang Blue Sky (current for sale), a HeartCore and a Genz Benz Streamliner 900 for backup. Since I switched to Accugrooves I see no reason to change - the 115 weighs 45Lbs and the 112 weighs 32 and they sound better (to my ears!) than the Bergantinos and others they replaced.
I constantly get very positive comments about the sound of the rig but it is not a cheap option.
Dan
For louder gigs where stage space isn't cramped: Bergantino NV610. It's 100 pounds
, but I schlep it because it's the greatest sounding cab I've ever heard (yes, I'm into the sealed Ampeg 8x10 vibe). It will fit into my Forester wagon without too much difficulty. Tilts and rolls, so moving over level ground is easy enough.For smaller/quieter gigs, I now use one or two Bergantino HG310 cabinets: neo drivers, 35 pounds each. They are the nicest-sounding lightweight cabs I've tried, and a lot more practical than the NV610.
FWIW: I gig nearly weekly with four different bands plus occasional sub work.
Just picked up a Mesa Subway 112/115 stack for an absolute steal locally and I am looking forward to gigging it this weekend. Otherwise, it's an LDS 12/6 nearful cab with an LDS 1x15 added on when needed.
These days I find that a light weight 410 works great for me in just about every scenario that includes a drummer. I'm currently using a Bergantino CN410 that weighs 49 lbs and it sounds amazing.
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@Acoustic356 — forgot to add that I can carry any of them myself, but prefer to use a hand truck, which I strap into my vehicle with 3 shoulder harnesses. It also serves as a safety barrier, so that if I hit something while driving, I don't have tons of gear bludgeoning my brains out.
It's a lot like this one, but not with pneumatic tires. It goes up and down stairs with just me "operating." It also makes it easy to bring a cabinet, rack bag, and cable bag into the venue in one carry—with my bass on my back. I'll be 67 in January, but still going strong.
It's a lot like this one, but not with pneumatic tires. It goes up and down stairs with just me "operating." It also makes it easy to bring a cabinet, rack bag, and cable bag into the venue in one carry—with my bass on my back. I'll be 67 in January, but still going strong.
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That Epifani Piccolo 600 head is one of the coolest looking heads I have ever seen!I use the Phil Jones Bass C8 cab paired with an Epifani Piccolo 600. I really love this combo. It is lightweight and effective. The cab can handle 800 watts at 4 ohms and my head can put out 600 watts at 4 ohm. Plus, the cab is extremely portable with built in wheels and luggage type handle. The cab itself is 48 pounds. But, as noted, the wheels make it very easy to move.
