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Gigging Musicians: Cabinet Choice

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Is that a Gator double elec bass bag? if so . ...how is it?

I also have that Gator double gig bag. It's probably the best gig bag I've ever owned. The straps connect with replaceable carabiners, it has a rain fly, It's adjustable (removable end pin block) Lots of storage... I owned Mono duo, Reunion Blues double, and this... which is by far the best of the lot.
 
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Jorg Schroeder just cut me a new can... Mini 12+L - 24 pounds, 500 watts at 4 ohms... I'm going to try it out this Friday.

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I haul my gear everywhere so weight is a big issue for me, but I'm also cheap.

I'm too cheap to have multiple cabs. So I make two trips in tight spaces and use a dolly for single trip from car. 65 lbs is definitely my limit for single piece of gear, but it's manageable.

Bass, One Pedal, and cords - Light enough I don't care
Hartke LH500 - 25 lbs
Fender Rumble V3 410 Cabinet - 65 lbs

I play in DC area once a week. I've only played two venues where the House system is good enough to just get away with my DI/Pedal Sansamp VT Deluxe. 90% of the venues have PAs where the mix of bass and vocals makes the vocals sound like sh**, so I bring my rig.

Almost every venue has long narrow staircase. I make two trips: first to carry the Cabinet and second for everything else. I can fit everything easy in my Mazda CX-5, but I've also managed to fit everything in my little VW beetle as well (except no dolly, just casters. But sometimes got to have the VW for parking in small tight spaces).
 
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fEARful 12/6 (Alphalite mid), about 42lbs IIRC.

I always use a sack truck to schlep it (edit - As seen behind my #1 fan). Most places don't have stairs but the pub the photo was taken has 3 steps down just inside the entrance then immediately 3 back up to the room we play in. :rolleyes:

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Complete Rig.

What kind of bass is this? Two knobs? Is one of the knobs a blend for both pickups? The other tone control?
 
What kind of bass is this? Two knobs? Is one of the knobs a blend for both pickups? The other tone control?
G&L SB-2. Stock they come with 2 volume controls, one for each pickup. IIRC the idea is that you add in small amounts of the J pickup to modify the tone of the P pickup.

That works fine for many but I missed my tone control so rewired it as a Volume + Tone for the P pickup with the J pickup is as yet not connected. I planned on adding a side jack and using the hole that the jack vacated for a another pot and wiring it vol/vol/tone. I have all the parts but am enjoying it wired as a P bass so am lacking the enthusiasm.
 
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Nice Quilter Amp. Not common over here in EU. Can you tell me a little about it? Can you for instance dial in highs or do you have to cut the mids and lows..? And does it handle 2Ω?

It's a very nicely built and constructed amp from the "Q" in QSC.

You can add/cut lows and add/cut highs with a lower mid cut in there, too.

Check this out for more info. It's a damn fine amp with minimal fuss.
 
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I guess I qualify, even though I play at churches. My church and several of the ones I sub at are going away from the no amps on stage mania.

I use two different rigs, depending on the size of the church. Mine seats about 1400 and I use an Accugroove Tri-115L and crank it. Small churches I use an Accugroove Tri112L. Same head for both - Darkglass M900. I also have a Glockenklang Blue Sky (current for sale), a HeartCore and a Genz Benz Streamliner 900 for backup. Since I switched to Accugrooves I see no reason to change - the 115 weighs 45Lbs and the 112 weighs 32 and they sound better (to my ears!) than the Bergantinos and others they replaced.

I constantly get very positive comments about the sound of the rig but it is not a cheap option.

Dan

Two questions: Does the Darkglass MT900 give you adequate low frequency boost? I find the Gene Benz Shuttle 9, which I currently have, somewhat lacking there. Also, how do the accugrooves sound in comparison to the bergs? More low drive, mid driven, colored, natural sound of the instrument? Just curious. I've had my rig for over 6 years now; I need to change it up. I'm currently rockin a Schroeder 1212.
 
Two questions: Does the Darkglass MT900 give you adequate low frequency boost? I find the Gene Benz Shuttle 9, which I currently have, somewhat lacking there. Also, how do the accugrooves sound in comparison to the bergs? More low drive, mid driven, colored, natural sound of the instrument? Just curious. I've had my rig for over 6 years now; I need to change it up. I'm currently rockin a Schroeder 1212.

I can get enough low end boost that it could make you nauseous! FAR more than I would ever use... I have a Shuttle 9 and it was not tubey enough for me, so I bought the Streamliner 900 and was happier with it. Got GAS and bought the Glockenklang Blue Soul - an AMAZING amp but it requires a bit of tweaking to get it to sound the way I like it. I have turned into a Darkglass fanboi so I got the amp and was NOT disappointed! I tend to use my pedalboard with the VMTD and Super Symmetry (and others) as the basic sound to get the tube warmth and drive I like and then use the B3K section of the head to kick in a really nice overdrive - to the point that I am thinking of selling my Red Witch Factotum! LOTS of compliments on the rig.

It is hard to describe the difference between the Accugroove and Bergantino sound - both are great. I find the sound of the Accugrooves a little more to my liking, although both sound great. To me (YMMV) the Bergs are a little more in your face and the Accugrooves a bit more naturally warm. Since I do not slap, the warmth is nice, especially since they are not tubby and slow sounding. I guess the difference is why I like the accuracy with a lush sound of the Theil speakers over others that may be more accurate but don't do it in a pleasing way.

I have had a few (very few) experiences the Schroeder line (a 2x12/tweeter cab) and it was MUCH more mid-range focussed that either the Accugrooves or the Bergs. FYI - I have had a couple different Berg 1x12 stacks, a 322 and LOVED the NV-610 but it would be way overkill for what I do. I could be happy with the Bergs but slightly like the Accugrooves better - personal preference rules!

Hope this helps.

Dan
 
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I can get enough low end boost that it could make you nauseous! FAR more than I would ever use... I have a Shuttle 9 and it was not tubey enough for me, so I bought the Streamliner 900 and was happier with it. Got GAS and bought the Glockenklang Blue Soul - an AMAZING amp but it requires a bit of tweaking to get it to sound the way I like it. I have turned into a Darkglass fanboi so I got the amp and was NOT disappointed! I tend to use my pedalboard with the VMTD and Super Symmetry (and others) as the basic sound to get the tube warmth and drive I like and then use the B3K section of the head to kick in a really nice overdrive - to the point that I am thinking of selling my Red Witch Factotum! LOTS of compliments on the rig.

It is hard to describe the difference between the Accugroove and Bergantino sound - both are great. I find the sound of the Accugrooves a little more to my liking, although both sound great. To me (YMMV) the Bergs are a little more in your face and the Accugrooves a bit more naturally warm. Since I do not slap, the warmth is nice, especially since they are not tubby and slow sounding. I guess the difference is why I like the accuracy with a lush sound of the Theil speakers over others that may be more accurate but don't do it in a pleasing way.

I have had a few (very few) experiences the Schroeder line (a 2x12/tweeter cab) and it was MUCH more mid-range focussed that either the Accugrooves or the Bergs. FYI - I have had a couple different Berg 1x12 stacks, a 322 and LOVED the NV-610 but it would be way overkill for what I do. I could be happy with the Bergs but slightly like the Accugrooves better - personal preference rules!

Hope this helps.

Dan

Dan, this is great information! I don't slap much these days either. I'm a freelance player and play many styles. These days, I've been landing a lot of jazz (electric & upright), 50's/60's pop and country/Americana gigs. I've definitely felt the void on a warm low end with my Schroeder. I'm considering either a couple of Aguilar SL112's, Accugroove Wedgies 112's or just one Berg NV115 for these styles listed above. Also, since I play 4-6 times a week, I need something relatively light weight; preferably neodymiums, but I will buy ceramic if a cabinet is around 50lbs. I was kind of leaning to the Berg NV115 just to get that authentic sealed cab 115 sound, without sacrificing the mids needed to cut through some loud bands.

The problem is, since the market is always changing. In another 6 months I may be back to playing Smooth Jazz (slap), Grunge, rock/pop wedding band stuff where I would need both mid driven and scooped sound again. So my thinking was for a second cab to stack on a warm cab (or run single), I'd get a typical mid driven/highs friendly cab for cater to these styles; ala HDN Berg.

As for the head, I thought the Darglass MT900 looked like a great contender, being that I could get vintage tube sounds on p bass, and the next night some grungy rock sounds on my Ibáñez active bass. Or un colored scooped slap sounds for that matter.

What do you think? I need efficiency and versatility in my rig. What pairing would you go with to acheive this?

What I'm going to have to is just buy the MT900 and take it to Austin TX; they probably have all of these cabs in one shop lol.

Thank you Dan! Great insight. You have me thinking
 
You have me thinking

Oh, oh! A bassist thinking - the first step toward GAS!

I forgot to mention, I have the Tri-115L and the Tri-112L but use the 115 most. I hope I did not get people to thinking that the tone of the cab is not great for slap, because it is good for slap. It just does not do it in the "icepick between your eyes" way. In addition, both cabs are easy to move and together they are just 2x wonderful! They are certainly versatile.

As for efficiency, there may be cabs that are more efficient but I don't think you will find better all-round sound than the Accugrooves or Berg - I just prefer the Accugroove sound. Also, with 900 watts into 4 ohms, how efficient does the cab need to be? If there is enough surface area in the cabs you use, that amount of power is going to be LOUD!

Good luck with your "thinking!" I really don't think you could go wrong with those two choices.

Dan
 
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For cabs I use either 2 Bergantino EX112's, AE 112's or an AE212. I just sold my Aguilar 112's finally after about 10 yrs or so. I have a Schroeder 410 I haven't used in 10 yrs, a Schroeder 15L that sees occasional use and a 2x15 Polaris (200S) cab that's waiting for Neos I may start using again. Heads: my main head now is a Peavey Minimega 1000, for the last few yrs it was a Genz Shuttlemax 12.0. Back up heads include a Genz 6.0, Carvin BX500, Sunn 200S, And some others. Everything is lightweight, the 112's are around 35 lbs. The 212 is around 50 lbs. the heads are about 10lbs or less. Not counting tube heads mentioned.
 
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TL606.

It's a 1x15" with an ElectroVoice 15B speaker and shelf port. They're custom made by following blueprints from EV.

EV commercially produced their own similar cab called the EV B115M.
They also made a 2x15" with a 6" mid called EV B215M which I have and sometimes gig with when I want to make a visual impression on stage. I don't use it much because it's 117 lbs.

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You can directly substitute the EV15L speaker for the B version and gain some higher frequencies for dual use as either a bass cabinet or guitar cabinet, but you lose half of your power handling (from 400w down to 200w per speaker).
Two TL606's stacked ports together (they couple) loaded with 400 watt Altecs driven by SansAmp RPM into a PVDJ 1500. That link didn't work for me. Try Google-ing TL606. I once found plans for a 4x15 cabinet based on the TL606 but you're gonna need a truck...