When you left the old employer - the one you're going back to - how much notice did you give them?
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Give Notice?
- Thread starter tycobb73
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I gave 2 weeks. But I truly respect this guy. I wanted the freindship and respect. He is one of my idols. Now I may get the chance to go back.
Due to the possibility of criminal behavior and the advice of 2 attorneys Im getting out of here as fast as I can with no notice.
Due to the possibility of criminal behavior and the advice of 2 attorneys Im getting out of here as fast as I can with no notice.
Run it by the guy you are going to work for. If it hurts your chances there, then do whatever you have to to preserve the new job. If the owner of the new company says he can wait, then at least offer a notice.
Based on what you described, it's a moot point anyway. Why? They will probably flip out when you give notice. Things will go south from there and you will be outa there in minutes.
Based on what you described, it's a moot point anyway. Why? They will probably flip out when you give notice. Things will go south from there and you will be outa there in minutes.
I've never left a job due to criminal activity but I was working as a landscaper back in my formative days and saw trucks reposessed by sheriffs while on job sites and had a customer put a bullet through the passenger side mirror of another truck, but that's another story
I've always found the new job wants or expects you to start right away but also expects notice on the way out. Absence of criminal activity I would always give/offer 2 weeks notice.
Give them 2 weeks notice. You dont have to train anybody to do anything but at least be professional and give notice.
The right thing to do is to give them proper notice if you can, and no matter what, don't sabatage the software in any manner. However, don't feel obligated to go out of your way to make things easier for the new employee...if only you know how certain things works, that's their problem after you're gone. Leave with your held held high and let them flounder.
A few people I know have given their 2 weeks and then used up their vacation time for some or all of that. So the end result operationally is about the same as if they had quit that day. That strategy makes sense if you have paid vacation time accrued (since you'll just be forfeiting it otherwise), but companies sometimes have a problem with it.
+1
Or is it not accepted practice in the US to clearly state notice periods in the contract?
state to state thing. If he works in an "employment at will" state then there is no employment contract. still good manners to give notice but he is not obligated to do so.
IMO, this changes the game.
Even if the manager/owner is a jerk, 2 weeks notice is professional courtesy.
If there's a possibility of getting wrapped up in a criminal matter, however, getting out immeidately is probably a good idea. You had to figure out the accounting system for yourself. Let the next guy do the same thing.
It's Friday. Friday is a good day to quit.
This is a "no brainer".
Adults give notice.
Moody teenagers quit no-call/no-show.
You shouldn't even have to ask about this.
If you knew of misconduct and criminal behavior and are only willing to report it once you leave, you are as guilty of the wrongdoing as they are and, rightfully, you should suffer the penalty with them. This too, is a "no brainer".
Now that you are leaving this place and giving yourself a fresh start, try to build some character and integrity into yourself and your life. They will serve you well the rest of your lfie.
Would your current employer give you two weeks notice if he was going to fire you?
Would he give you a severance package ?
Hmmmm
Yelling ,screaming and criminal activity,,,, run away
Would he give you a severance package ?
Hmmmm
Yelling ,screaming and criminal activity,,,, run away
Based on the repeatedly demonstrated behavior of old boss, I'd be on the fence at best. "Professional courtesy", like good manners, only works with people who people who value same
I think it's far more likely that old boss' response will be "Nobody quits on me! You're FIRED!!!"
If you want to handle it in the Old School way then give 'em a week, but be prepared to be literally frog-marched out the door the moment you formally deliver The Message and don't be foolish enough to expect any severance pay or accrued benefits (vacation time etc.) owed
I think it's far more likely that old boss' response will be "Nobody quits on me! You're FIRED!!!"
If you want to handle it in the Old School way then give 'em a week, but be prepared to be literally frog-marched out the door the moment you formally deliver The Message and don't be foolish enough to expect any severance pay or accrued benefits (vacation time etc.) owed
Yes, perhaps I was a bit harsh. For that I apologize; otherwise, I stand by my statements.
And thanks you for your support here, Dwaynie.
Well, if an employee thinks that a corrupt boss will sabotage or somehow hurt them if/when they give notice, then someone may need to consider quitting with no notice. Just remember, that person is part of your work history now and it can come back to bite you.
Even if you quit on great terms with an employer, you really have no control over what they say later. They can always stab you in the back and claim they fired you regardless of how you leave.
Yeah, well except whistleblower laws vary by state and run the gamut over the amount of protection they give employees. The case law regarding employers conducting legally questionable activity and that relationship with employees' refusal to conduct that activity is also not very clear.
