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Going to be China Free in 2008
- Thread starter Stinsok
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Great idea... Those people are starving, lets take away more money and jobs from them... Maybe their gov will have a change of heart... No i am not being sarcastic...
Ask yourself WHY they are starving... and if more American dollars donated to their 'economy' will really help those who are.
I can think of loads of fantastic reasons.
And here's a totally random image for your delectation:
That isn't up to code, if it is a beam.
For shoes, well I haven't looked yet, but for work boots, Redwings all the way. 100% Canadian made. There is a bunch of stuff that is not made in China, you just have to look at small stores and be willing to pay more. IMO a good idea all in all and one that I am trying to do this year.
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Now a bike, on the otherhand, is something I'd consider from China. Since the majority of it's population gets around on a bike, I'd figure that they'd have some pretty good quality on bikes.
I will have to say the little Honda clone engines on these things are well made, run well and are the best part of these cheap little motorcycles. However the rest is hit and miss.
I don't want to get all political about china. However, does anyone wonder how Chinese products get onto your store shelves. By boycotting Chinese or any other foreign products, you're also boycotting the Americans(i.e. truck drivers, warehouse workers, store clerks, small business owners, etc.) that try to earn a living by bringing you the products into your home.
You're making the assumption that by not buying Chinese, you're not buying anything.
The American workers will still be working to bring you the product whether it's made in China, Seattle, Italy, Canada, etc.
Good luck. A lot of your American food is now being processed or uses ingredients from China that seem all American but not- Read your labels!
I saw a Pod Cast of The Current that was about a Chinese factory that made most of the Mardi Gras beads. All these young girls who make $40 a month & work 14 hour days, string the beads by hand, with their fingers all cut up, taped in duct tape
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They show the workers video of Mardi Gras & how they people get the beads (flashing breasts) and they are shocked. They never knew what the beads were for.
The factory runs 24 hours 7 days a week.
I saw a Pod Cast of The Current that was about a Chinese factory that made most of the Mardi Gras beads. All these young girls who make $40 a month & work 14 hour days, string the beads by hand, with their fingers all cut up, taped in duct tape
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They show the workers video of Mardi Gras & how they people get the beads (flashing breasts) and they are shocked. They never knew what the beads were for.
The factory runs 24 hours 7 days a week.
Just about every American Company manufactures there now.
Funny but China is becoming too expensive so companies are now going to India & Vietnam for production
Funny but China is becoming too expensive so companies are now going to India & Vietnam for production
China Free??
Wait a minute, I didn't get the memo.
Are we still boycotting products from France?? I thought we were boycotting products from France. I haven't had any French Fries, French Dressing, or Peru in over five years.
What's going on??
Wait a minute, I didn't get the memo.
Are we still boycotting products from France?? I thought we were boycotting products from France. I haven't had any French Fries, French Dressing, or Peru in over five years.
What's going on??
The big 3 mass producing countries in the world is china, india, and vietnam. Maybe I haven't look hard enough, but the last time I went to Walmart, I haven't seen anything mass produced by Italy, or Canada.
That's true, but the point I'm making is that China could drop off the face of the earth and Walmart's shelves would still be full of product. Someone would step up to the plate.
As a matter of fact, before Sam Walton died, everything in Walmart WAS made in America.
As a matter of fact, before Sam Walton died, everything in Walmart WAS made in America.
The city of Geneva has been boycotting American made products since the start of military operations in Iraq.
Trouble. And everybody buys it.
I saw strange posts earlier in this thread.
Let's say you moved most of the World's top polluting industries to developping countries so you don't have them on your soil anymore and can pay workers crap.
How fair is it to complain about pollution afterwards ?
I saw strange posts earlier in this thread.
Let's say you moved most of the World's top polluting industries to developping countries so you don't have them on your soil anymore and can pay workers crap.
How fair is it to complain about pollution afterwards ?
To the OP, good for you. I will join you as much as I can.
If you don't read anything else, watch this 20 mins video: http://www.storyofstuff.com/
<rant>
The problem of china-made goods are that the externalities of consumerism do not affect the consumers. The pollution/the social problems are displaced in China instead of affecting the people in developed countries. Why things from China are so cheap? because the workers have are paid little, no health care, no subsidized schools etc. just so you can buy something for very little. If it was made it the US, they would have to pay more for labour, taxes etc which passes the cost down to the consumer. That just upsets consumers to have to pay more for their goods so they justify it by saying "at least the sweatshop workers have a job". It's OK, as long as they aren't working in the sweatshop.
About the rising amounts of pollution in the world, most of the old industrialized countries (US, Canada, Europe) have stable pollution rates. The new industrialized countries (China, India) are creating more pollution than they use to in the past and that's causing the global rates to increase. A most of the increasing pollution in those countries are to make goods that would be sold overseas but also the amount of consumption within the country has increased. The new industrialized countries are just trying to get what the old industrialized countries already have ex. cars, air conditioning etc.
</rant>
For everyone else, what have you done to challenge yourself lately?
If you don't read anything else, watch this 20 mins video: http://www.storyofstuff.com/
<rant>
The problem of china-made goods are that the externalities of consumerism do not affect the consumers. The pollution/the social problems are displaced in China instead of affecting the people in developed countries. Why things from China are so cheap? because the workers have are paid little, no health care, no subsidized schools etc. just so you can buy something for very little. If it was made it the US, they would have to pay more for labour, taxes etc which passes the cost down to the consumer. That just upsets consumers to have to pay more for their goods so they justify it by saying "at least the sweatshop workers have a job". It's OK, as long as they aren't working in the sweatshop.
About the rising amounts of pollution in the world, most of the old industrialized countries (US, Canada, Europe) have stable pollution rates. The new industrialized countries (China, India) are creating more pollution than they use to in the past and that's causing the global rates to increase. A most of the increasing pollution in those countries are to make goods that would be sold overseas but also the amount of consumption within the country has increased. The new industrialized countries are just trying to get what the old industrialized countries already have ex. cars, air conditioning etc.
</rant>
For everyone else, what have you done to challenge yourself lately?
You are forgetting about Spencer Gifts Fart Spray! Let them boycott, more for us!
Seriously though, Antifreeze ingredients in toothpaste, lead based paint on kids toys, dangerous tires, bad dog food. Not cool.
Good luck with your boycott. It won't work. It can't work. But good luck with it anyway.
That video is filled with more gross fallacies than the ones made by the groups who try to convince us that the universe and everything in it was actually created in 6 days.
Only this was much more condescending.
It's almost as if there were some kind of economic law in operation here, like a law of supply and demand that affects markets, where people are free to buy goods from where their cost is cheaper.
It's like the people who live in these countries actually want to improve their standard of living to something approaching the level that the Western world is used to.
We can only hope that they'll be in a better position to implement the technology dependent pollution control measures that the Western world routinely employs as their own technology improves with their standard of living. Of course it won't be able to do that if the rest of the world stops buying goods from China, in which case there will be 1.6 billion people living in 3rd world conditions with no choice but to use energy as inefficiently as possible with no pollution controls at all.I've read some books on economics that were written after 1950.
i do my best to buy products made in the usa, preferably union, or from a few other countries that i wish to support with my $. its not near as hard to not buy products made in china as most people think. as we all know most all electroics are now made there in some form, so there's not a whole lot that can be done about that. i'm curious what else people are constantly shopping for that is only made in china? clothes? plenty are made in mexico, indonesia, etc. shoes- same thing. food? most are grown/produced here, or have a sticker to say where they're from. i've found in my search for anything from duct tape to pepper grinders that although the selection may be a little limited for things made in the USA (or non-chinese country of choice), its not that hard to find them, and the prices are nearly the same.......
I see alot of auto parts coming out of Canada and Italy, as well as China.
Fwiw the Chinese stuff is junk. Send it all back.
