Good 4x10 bass cabinets?

[Lepparda]

If you seek the best of the best, aguilar either db410 or gs410. I opted for a db410 because it sits perfect in the mix for me.

But it isn’t lightweight. Quite the opposite in fact. For best performance though, I trust my ears and go with the “good ol’ heavys”

I agree, the Aguilar DB410 has such a rich tone and punches through a mix. Pro gear.

 

[ImHereToAsk]

212 cabinets for sure. Smaller, nice big sound, great volume. But if you must go 410, I'd definately do a modular stack. 2 210s instead of 1 410. That way, you have options. The TC Electronic cabinets are my favorite for sure, but ampeg's always tight and punchy. Mesa is amazing, and Hartke's kinda unique. Peavey can take a beating for cheap. All of those are great companies that make great products. My suggestion is to play through a few different ones with your own set up. Your bass, amp, and pedals. But if that's impossible for you, YouTube with some good headphones is an easy taste test. Just not by any means a solid substitute for trying things out in real life.

Would music stores accept that you take your own amp with you to test cabs?

 

[Maynjo]

If you seek the best of the best, aguilar either db410 or gs410. I opted for a db410 because it sits perfect in the mix for me.

But it isn’t lightweight. Quite the opposite in fact. If you want the best lightweight check bergantino/barefaced/vanderkley but all lightweights impose a tone compromise (to my experience). Your best bet to somewhat copy the aguilar character is vanderkley imo. Wonderful cabs. For best performance though, I trust my ears and go with the “good ol’ heavys”

I've been trying to decide between an sl410x or two db210s, have you tried the SL? I'm wondering if the extra weight of the DB would be worth it.

 

[bassballs27]

Any 4x10 by Bergantino!
If you want lightweight, go with their HDN line, if you want Ceramic (my preference), find an HD410 used!
I'll warn you now....the HD410's are heavier....but worth their weight in gold!

 

[Sparkl]

I've been trying to decide between an sl410x or two db210s, have you tried the SL? I'm wondering if the extra weight of the DB would be worth it.

I would go the 2xdb210 anyday.

Haven’t had a chance to try the sl410 though I was able to compare a db112 vs sl112 cab and I can say that the SL definitely sounds compromised compared to it’s heavier brother. Less full, more “bity” (upper mids) which is a common voicing characteristic of neo speakers.

 

[sigterm]

I've been trying to decide between an sl410x or two db210s, have you tried the SL? I'm wondering if the extra weight of the DB would be worth it.

The weight of my db212 is very real and very miserable. It's just obnoxiously heavy. Wheels and a ramp into the trailer and I wouldn't care but it really sucks to get in and out of a truck. Sounds awesome so worth it in a few scenarios but prohibitive in most.

 

[ImHereToAsk]

Thanks all for sharing your opinions and preference. I got a lot of cabs to choose from ^^
I think i have gotten enough to choose from. Ill def keep in mind the things you guys recommended. Have a nice day all!

 

[sigterm]

If you've already got the Mesa 400+ you mentioned, man that thing will just slay with any of these.

 

[JeezyMcNuggles]

Would music stores accept that you take your own amp with you to test cabs?

Well, you find your amp at the shop, and plug it into a few cabs

 

[Rip Van Dan]

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That bass is damn loud

Yeah, I thought I could get away with it being turned up a notch because we were outside...I couldn't.

 

[Rip Van Dan]

Wont it blow my amp out if i use a 1000w cab on a 500w amp?

NO! The cab doesn't generate any power at all. Your amp does all of that.

A "1,000-watt cab" means it can handle 1,000-watts. Your 500-watt amp will only put out the 500-watts it can generate. It's fine to use a lower watt amp on a cab that will handle much more. Just don't expect that 1,000-watt cab to be any louder than a comparable sensitivity cab that will handle 500 or 600 watts. It just doesn't matter to the amp - it will put out what it can and no more.

Personally I push an 800-watt amp into a cab that will handle 1400-watts RMS. I don't think I've ever pushed anywhere near that 800 watts into it because the cab is very sensitive (takes very few watts to make it loud) and it's just too damn loud to turn it up much.

 

[Barticus]

Would music stores accept that you take your own amp with you to test cabs?

Yep, I've done this before... It should not be an issue.

 

[Djadja]

I apologize for not reading the entire thread before posting...

The issue with a typical 410 is that the side by side arrangement of the speakers causes beaming of the mids and highs. That means your bass sounds different as you move around the sage and as you move around the audience.

There are two companies of which I’m aware that address this issue although in radically different ways. Neither is at the lower end of the price spectrum but they would be my only choices for a 410

Barefaced sends only the low frequencies through all 4 speakers. The mids and the highs only go to one side so you don’t get the beaming. Their 410 is voiced in a very vintage way which may or may not work for you.

Genzler crosses the woofers over pretty low (800 hz) and puts the mids and highs through a line array of 6 3 inch speakers. The line array actually improves vertical dispersion while the lower crossover lets the woofers do what they do best - lows. The paper cones in the array give you a very vocal midrange and smooth trebles. That adds up to no beaming and a great sounding cab. They are pretty neutral sounding and respond very well to EQ so should work for any type of music. Because of the array, they also respond very well to distortion if you ever use that. The cab hits hard and I can’t imagine a setting where you need more than one.

Both are relatively lightweight.

The Genzler would be my choice in a second if I was looking for a 410.

 

[chris_b]

Thanks all for sharing your opinions and preference. I got a lot of cabs to choose from ^^
I think i have gotten enough to choose from. Ill def keep in mind the things you guys recommended. Have a nice day all!

You can't stop them now! This is Talkbass. These guys haven't even got started yet!!

 

[Djadja]

I forgot the Revsound 410V - a vertical arrangement of 4 10’s... if you want a single cab with 410’s that is another way to avoid the beaming plus it gets the top speaker closer to your ears.

 

[kilgoja]

i never had a problem with beaming (that i noticed) and i played an 8x10 cabinet for 10 years in a band. lol

i would recommend the GK 4x10 neo cab

 

[BogeyBass]

For a 400+ the matching 2x15 is pretty good fit.

 

[kilgoja]

For a 400+ the matching 2x15 is pretty good fit.

yeah i played that combination for several years. it sounded great. can't go wrong with the 2x15 or 8x10 either. you could get two 4x10s if you wanted to go that route.

 

[Fuzzbass]

Bergantino HDN410. [/thread]

Great cab. I came here to suggest the Bergantino HG410. It's taller/narrower than the standard 4x10 -- easier to fit onto cramped stages. One woofer does face rearward, which seems odd, but it definitely adds to the sound (but less so if there's no rear wall). It's also a sealed cabinet, with "tighter" lows than a ported cab, but I play five string tuned a half-step flat and the cab gets plenty deep.

I happen to use a pair of Bergantino HG310 cabs. As others have said, modularity can be a great benefit. I always carry both in my wagon, but for many gigs I can use just one. A single HG310, also with rear-facing woofer, is the size of a 2x10, but performs better IMO (except maybe if there's no rear wall).

The HG310 is 6 ohms, the HG410 is the standard 4 ohms.

 

[rbernat]

SWR Goliath III (4 ohm).
Although heavy, it can handle 700 watts. The Goliaths are very efficient (louder than an Ampeg 4x10). I also have two older Goliath 8 ohm cabinets. All of which I have used for nearly 20 years. Many years with an SWR Bass 350 head. Now I only use the 4 ohm and recently got a Genzler Magellan 800. With that cabinet, you’ll never need to add anything else.