I have an HG410 - awesome cab. You have to be careful when you have a lot of boundaries - it may boom a little bit. There's a profile that takes care of that. Without a back wall, I like the original profile.
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Good 4x10 bass cabinets?
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Everyone has suggested some good cabs, I own an SWR G3 and Ampeg 4x10 myself. I just want to throw this out as an option. As a bass player and a sound tech my suggestion is a bit different, no cab at all. I know that seems to take the fun out of it but if your goal is for your audience to clearly hear and FEEL your bass and you have an adequate PA you might want to get a good DI/Pre-amp and give it a try. Since a cabinet is mostly for stage monitoring you can use in ears (good ones or your bass will sound awful) or a wedge if you have your own monitor. Stage cabinets don’t have the throw to cover a room unless it’s tiny and having two bass sources causes phase and timing issues. Trying to cover a room from stage will also likely not go over well with band mates thou they may miss the bass “energy” on stage. Sidefills or understage subs can replace that energy.
Another one that directly addresses the dispersion problem is the Best 410 cab, designed by Duke LeJeune and sold in kit form (and also preassembled, if one asks?) by Speaker Hardware. Its woofers are arranged in two crossfiring columns.
You've already seen it, but to whomever else, here's an overview, with pics, of all four cabinets discussed above i.e. Barefaced Four10, Best 410 cab, RevSound RS410V and SH Smart 410, plus the Invalid Link Removed, already mentioned/described in these last two pages of the thread:
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Forgive me for contradicting, but this statement is very "8 years ago." First gen neo cabs were meh. Current gen cabs from most vendors are, well, "not meh."
Forgive me for contradicting, but this statement is very "8 years ago." First gen neo cabs were meh. Current gen cabs from most vendors are, well, "not meh."
Though I absolutely respect your opinion, my experience tells me otherwise.
The GK neo absolutely looses to the GK RBH. The Aguilar SL sounds boring and “not-interested” like compared to gs or db.
I prefer mesa powerhouse to subway a lot. EBS neos sound cheap compared to their ProLines.
Basically the only lightie that I kind of dig is Vanderkley. And then I plug in the Ampeg 810 or aggie db410 or even gk rbh410 or V6b with ev speakers 15” or something similar and I keep breaking my back over these. There is just no comparison to my ears. And many others.
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It is true that the SL410x is no DB410 (I have both) but I definitely prefer the tone to other neo cabs that I have tried and at 22kg it might just save my marriage.
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Well that’s certainly true. I am doomed myself because I am a sound freak and just cant stand the fact that I am presenting myself with a set of equipment that brings a compromise to the table.
Well... yeah.
I am with you and for instance went with the Bergantino HD cabs after a test against the HDN's. IMHO ceramics are still the way to go and have more punch but good to have one lighter option. Never got on with the Markbass cabs and didn't like the Aguilar SL112s either but the SL410x seems to have a little more depth of tone to it (but it is no DB410).
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Many great 410's to chose from. My recommendations are both old and heavy. My favorite has always been the SWR Goliath and can be found cheap. Reportedly the Aguilar GS410 is king of all 410's, but I can't say from personal experience. I'm still trying to find an elusive SWR Golight 410 regular, not the Marcus Miller one which is a sealed box.
Best bang for little money would be a Peavey 410tx. I bought one for $150 and it was killer. Could handle all the power I could throw at it. I sure wish I had kept it. You can still find them used.
Any love here for Markbass?
I have a 2x10 Traveler. Nice and light and can be found on sale for < $500 if you keep your eyes open. Using a GK MB500 Head.
After reading the posts here, I am debating just adding a second 2 x 10.
Additionally, this setup will be used my teenage daughter who plays actively for school bands so ease of portability is important.
I should add I play lower volume performances, so the two cabinet approach adds flexibility....plus if my daughter takes one I still have the other.
I have a 2x10 Traveler. Nice and light and can be found on sale for < $500 if you keep your eyes open. Using a GK MB500 Head.
After reading the posts here, I am debating just adding a second 2 x 10.
Additionally, this setup will be used my teenage daughter who plays actively for school bands so ease of portability is important.
I should add I play lower volume performances, so the two cabinet approach adds flexibility....plus if my daughter takes one I still have the other.
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Ah, outside of the boutiques, I guess it's a bit different then. I sold my classic Powerhouse 15 because it doesn't do anything tonally that the Barefaced 10s can't do slightly louder and for less weight. But maybe I'm comparing apples to GMO oranges.
Ah, outside of the boutiques, I guess it's a bit different then. I sold my classic Powerhouse 15 because it doesn't do anything tonally that the Barefaced 10s can't do slightly louder and for less weight. But maybe I'm comparing apples to GMO oranges.
I think that Barefaced 10 series aren't neo but ceramic.
As for weight - yes, a Barefaced 10 might be "the one" but can't say for sure since I haven't tried it. I sold my Big Twin 2 because I tried a Db410 and it blew me away. Instantly felt groovier and funkier.
I will probably only demonstrate that I know nothing, but the Barefaced 10's are ferrous magnets, not neo or ceramic, to my undersanding. It may well be that you just prefer 10's to 12's, so maybe the Barefaced 10's would have rocked your world... or not, of course. Point is, you love the cab you got, so that's the bottom line. If it aint broke don't fix it.
been a while but i'd like to bump this thread.
any other suggestions since 2 years ago? really want a light punchy heavy hitting 4 10 to handle OC2 sounds.
any other suggestions since 2 years ago? really want a light punchy heavy hitting 4 10 to handle OC2 sounds.
I just moved to a Gallien-Krueger CX410-8 and I love this thing. It's one of (if not the) smallest 410's on the market. One of the ligther 410s too coming in at 67lbs. Not bad for 800w 8-ohm.
Size wise it's only 26.5" x 23" x 14.5"
I agree this is a legitimate concern as some folks don't understand their eq. That could be the guitarist's issue too. Bands that give up their balance to other's give engineers fits. I've played a lot of big stages and rarely have I met a monitor that could do what a bass amp could do. Often they were flayed within a inch of their lives and sounded like poo. All fart.
My mates hearing the whole band as they are used to is paramount to a good show. Showing up like a string quartet and playing in balance with each other without excessive volume makes sound folks jobs way easier.
I did play San Francisco Golden Gate Park with a Polytone 101 1x15 and the side fills provided monstrous clear big sound. I didn't have to change my attack to stop fuzz and buzz.
I've heard my Berg IP through thousands of watts of FOH reproducing exactly my bass sound. The engineer mic'd and took me direct from Glockenklang BAC pre. The bassist before me was direct. I asked the engineer if that was what she preferred I do. She said, "you've spent too much time and money putting together that rig. We are using it."
