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Double Bass Great studio mics for DB
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P-12 - Peluso Microphone Lab
Peluso makes a C12 Clone. Just thought everyone would like to know. I've recorded through their CEM6. They can be had for a mere $2,085.00.
For those of us who failed Radio Shack's Knight Kit Walkie Talkie build.
Peluso makes a C12 Clone. Just thought everyone would like to know. I've recorded through their CEM6. They can be had for a mere $2,085.00.
For those of us who failed Radio Shack's Knight Kit Walkie Talkie build.
Last album I recorded we used a peluso sdc (not sure which one) on the fingerboard and a fathead about 12' from the bass fhole.
One of my bands uses a center Peluso 22 47 and bass plugged in and several local venues use pelusos exclusively
I live one town over from the peluso shop, they make great products and everyone here loves them.
I was going to pick of a pair of line audio cm4s for myself but this thread is making me rethink.
One of my bands uses a center Peluso 22 47 and bass plugged in and several local venues use pelusos exclusively
I live one town over from the peluso shop, they make great products and everyone here loves them.
I was going to pick of a pair of line audio cm4s for myself but this thread is making me rethink.
Nothing wrong with Line Audio! They are an exceptional value and sound incredible. The Peluso CEM6 is a few notches up from the CM4’s but
you can buy several CM4’s for the cost of one Peluso.
And you can buy more than 2 Pelusos for the cost of one Schoeps, but these are a few notches up from the CM4's and even up from the Pelusos...in my impression..
Best sound I got in the studio was an AKG C414 on the left upper bout, about 12" to 14" away from the top. It got just enough body + string sound to make things full, crisp, and punchy.
I've had more expensive mics on my bass, but I'm convinced placement is the most important aspect of getting a good sound. A lot of times, engineers with less experience recording DB will immediately put a mic down near the bottom of the f hole. This invariably seems to give a woofy, unfocused sound.
Austrian audio has the schematics for the original C12 capsule and they're making them again. Their current large diaphragm Mic is more of a competitor to the AKG 414 than a c12,. But I wonder what their new Mic would sound like through a tube preamp. Also wonder if they will make an attempt at a large diaphragm tube condenser with that capsule
And you can buy more than 2 Pelusos for the cost of one Schoeps, but these are a few notches up from the CM4's and even up from the Pelusos...in my impression..
In my particular case the Schoeps isn't an option. The Explore Audio H-Clamp, just slides right off my bass, I went with the Remic's because they are easier to mount and sound exceptional. The Schoeps is a wonderful microphone I've
heard Larry Grenadier and Danny Ziemann play into one live. Just not for me.
When we get into the rarified atmosphere around really expensive boutique microphones like the AKG CM-12's and Shoeps CMC6 MK41's I just kind of zone out.Just my take of course.
If I were recording in my own studio and producing myown recordings I would consider the Peluso.
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I bought a matched pair of BeezNeez Tube mics several years ago, when the company was getting started. They are replicas of U87's. They sound awesome for double bass. I think the pair was 1500. Some of the boutique companies like this make great deals....
In the realm of affordable, but still very expensive the Shure KSM313's are a great option. They are ribbon mics that work on pretty much anything. They are also very tough unlike most ribbon mics. The front and back have different tonal profiles. I love it on upright.
Here in LA the U47 is popular. I prefer the RCA 44. The engineer on my latest project put a U47 and an RCA 44 in front of my bass, and used a mix of both.
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This video is interesting, even though the sound is taken out of context (no drums or keys in the mix).
It's a blind taste test: put on your best cans, write down your likes and dislikes before the big reveal.
I was pretty surprised by the results. (I did NOT like the sound of some uber-expensive mics).
I blindly chose the AKG 414 (same capsule as the C12/C5600).
It's a blind taste test: put on your best cans, write down your likes and dislikes before the big reveal.
I was pretty surprised by the results. (I did NOT like the sound of some uber-expensive mics).
I blindly chose the AKG 414 (same capsule as the C12/C5600).
As did I.
I also liked the Røde NT2-A. It sounds pretty darned good...especially for a $400 microphone.
A quick question: All those YT videos are mangled through the sites compression algorithms (I think they do 128kb) and then reproduced with whatever equipment is on the other side. So, how much fildelity is there really? Sure, all the mics go through the same procedure, what makes them somewhat comparable, but isn’t it more about how resitent they are (towards mangeling) when going through such a chain?
That’s a genuine question, not meant to critique.
Most records recorded today are listened to on laptop speakers, car stereos or (shudder) BLUETOOTH EARBUDS.
It's a common woe with some contemporary producers that they're using an 80 kagillion dollar recording setup to only ever be heard as streaming audio over bluetooth.
But to answer your question: If all 14 mics are subject to the same compression, it gives you SOME benchmark, but not an ideal one, no. (My choice might be different listening to the actual recordings in a treated room with legit monitors).
Low frequencies / bass frequencies suffer the most in A-to-D conversion. Some engineers prefer specific A-to-D boxes because of the choices the manfacturers make to handle low freq before and during conversion.
I'm just happy I preferred the sound of a $700 mic over a vintage Neuman.
(edit: $1000 mic. I haven't checked prices in a while.)
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The RODEs are killer mics for the price point. Pretty much all of them IME.
I have a bunch of NTs (four of them) I use as utility mics. (1s, 1As, I think... I'd have to check the actual markings) and I find them the tiniest bit bright. I find myself needing to roll off the high end, but it's better to have it and not use it, than to need it and not have it.
I chose all the Neumanns except the 149. I was hoping for a surprise but no such luck.
I’ve always loved this mic shootout. It’s useful to hear the mics in a mix. Man, when the U47 sample kicks in I always lose my shite. It just sounds glorious. Choosing the Best Mic for Upright Bass – with Sound Samples - inSync
If you've selected a HD in the video's setting's quality there is no reason that audio prepared right for YouTube can't sound better than a CD. Youtube's limiting algorithms don't interfere with audio that has been mastered well. If you right click on the video you can see the "stat's for nerds" and it will tell how much audio reduction is happening etc.
Back in the olden days we musicians would occasionally comment on how our non-musician friends often had better "stereos" than we did. One theory was that we knew what live music sounded like and were less concerned with recorded sound quality. Another was that they had more money.
