Guitard voicing his opinions on next amp purchase

[slackinatthebas]

i wouldn't buy something i don't want. tell your guitarist to buy an ampeg 810 and let you use it if he thinks you need one so bad.

i'm kinda going through the same thing with the guitarists in my band. they want me to get an gk and a goldline 810, since that's what their last bass player had. i told them if they really wanted me to use the same stuff, to buy it and i'll use it with them, but my money is going into a mesa m9 carbine.

basically, what i'm saying is what everyone else is saying.

your money = spent on what you want.

their money = what they want.


on another note... get an m9 carbine and a powerhouse cab and really eff their day up

 

[totallybacan]

I would love a carbine. BUT a bit too pricey for me. I'm trying to get a head and matching cab for under 1200. I already got the fusion 550, so i'm just a bit short for a cab. but thats nothing flipping burgers can't fix

 

[Jim Campbell]

it sounds to me like an 8x10 fridge or 2 fours would be a good solution .... would probably give you a sound you can live with,keep your band mates happy,and if long term you feel like a change ,you have something that will sell easily at a good price

 

[mndean]

Guitard:12's in bass amps you have to be kinda careful about the construction. Sometimes it'll just sound really muddy and just all around bad. haha.

Me: Umm, I've seen and heard some really good ones


Friend: 12's are for guitar, 15's are alright but less clean and responsive.

Me (at this point i get mad): how the hell are they for guitar? They're as common as 15

Friend: I can't say I've seen more than a handful of bass cabs with 12 inch speakers, while almost every guitar amp I've seen does

Guitard: 12's are usually used for guitar because they're really hard to tune for bass frequencies without sounding muddy.

Where on earth did this "12s are just for guitar" start? I remember hearing the same thing 25 years ago.

 

[ErebusBass]

I'm gonna say it again: Get what YOU want. Don't get what the guitarist wants unless you want it too.

If he won't even let you pick your own rig, how do you think all of the other decisions are going to be made?

 

[totallybacan]

Using the very scientific method of eenie meenie miny moe, I decided to choose the 212 over the 115 or 410. And incidentally, the guitarist helped without knowing which is the funny part of the story. After I knew what I was going to pick, I said (without any background information) pick a number, 1,2,3 (410, 212, 115). At this point i knew I would get the 212. Strangely enough, he said, go with 2, it's a win-win situation. funny how things turn out.

I'm glad I'm back on the light side. For a minute there it seemed like I was falling victim to no self-thought. I completely agree that if i pay for it, I get what I want, not what he wants. I'm looking forward to getting the materials soon. Maybe when we go on tour one of you helpful tb'ers can stop by and say hi at one of our shows. Thanks again.

 

[GearHeadBassMan]

And I forgot to mention, right now I have an SWR Big Ben and SWR Workingman's 410t both at 8 ohms. So I'd use the 410 with whichever new cab I get until I buy a second one to go along with the new rig.

well then, use those for now, maybe upgrade the workingmans down the road to a better 410 or maybe even a 210. the big ben is a monster of a good cab, why get rid of it?

and yeah, I get some "suggestions" on what to buy from my guitarist/singer/songwriter. fortunetly for me, he LOVES the feel of shaking bass lows and wants me to be upfront in the mix so at the end of the day me and him compromise our tastes.

 

[babebambi]

well then, use those for now, maybe upgrade the workingmans down the road to a better 410 or maybe even a 210. the big ben is a monster of a good cab, why get rid of it?

and yeah, I get some "suggestions" on what to buy from my guitarist/singer/songwriter. fortunetly for me, he LOVES the feel of shaking bass lows and wants me to be upfront in the mix so at the end of the day me and him compromise our tastes.

yeah, why get rid of the Big Ben? its a good cab.
in case you really are unloading the Big Ben, give me a shout if you are in Canada.

 

[totallybacan]

All the drivers that I have just aren't responsive. I've used different amps, and the moment that I realized that I need new cabs is when a 112 by itself and a 210 by itself outplayed my whole rig. I got my rig dirt cheap so I shouldn't expect more from it. It's lasted me about a year while I upgraded basses and heads, but I'm not using the heads anywhere near full potential because of the inefficiency.

 

[One Drop]

So here's what you need to say...

"When Iggy Pop hired Mike Watt for the Stooges reunion, he made Watt use SVT/810e's, but he also rented them for him. So if you want me to use a 410 or 810, you need to buy it or rent it for me and I'll use it. Otherwise, I'm going to take my own money and buy the rig that I think gets the job done the best way I know how, and if you guys think I'm going to buy a rig that screws the sound of the band, then why did you ask me to join in the first place?"

As an aside, I give full credit to Iggy for insisting on a certain sound for his sidemen, following his preferences based on long experience. But way more credit is due him for changing his mind and letting Watt use his Eden rig these days, having heard how good he sounds through it, I guess.

 

[JimmyM]

As an aside, I give full credit to Iggy for insisting on a certain sound for his sidemen, following his preferences based on long experience. But way more credit is due him for changing his mind and letting Watt use his Eden rig these days, having heard how good he sounds through it, I guess.

Agreed. Too bad their equipment truck had to get stolen just as soon as Iggy let him use the Eden stuff.