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HAD A BAD GIG TONIGHT.......

#101
Marc DLarosa said:
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The Whiskey... WOW!!! I haven't played there in many years!!! How long have You been in L.A.? My band, Friction Addiction (contracted with WB, produced by Michael Hutchens, the record was never released, but the "Journey/money" was FUN) , was the headlining house band there, in like... '92/'93, every Monday for the "No Bozo's" jam. Had alot of big names sit in with us. What a HOOT!!! Also, played there before, and after, with some other bands that You may remember/recognize, if You were around back then...

Here's a couple of shots at the Whiskey, from about '88/'89. My Sabre was still pink then. :laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:
Funny/Ironic thing? This band was called JADE. (J)ust (A)nother (D)runk (E)xcuse...
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I was a staple in LA in the eighties playing in many different bands, but can't seem to remember much. Not drugs and alcohol, mostly chasing women. Whiskey, Madame Wongs, Blue Lagoon Saloon, the Lighthouse, Gazzarris, and a bunch more I can't remember. The prime HairBand era. Had a lot of fun, but I am older and married now. I just play because I love to play.
 
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#104
Many years ago I left a band with some pretty talented members. The onstage situation had not escalated to the level of getting physical, but one of the reasons I left was the presence of illegal controlled substances.

The very next gig they played was at a college area bar and it degenerated to a shouting match on stage between one of the guitar players and the keyboard player. Apparently there were many "F" words being thrown back and forth with the PA getting it all.

The guitar player went on to rant saying "I am the talent here and the one people came to see, and the rest of you are just dead weight". This of course was at screaming volume. I suspect the guitar player was under the influence of some of those controlled substances since that was his normal practice. I was not there but heard later that the keyboard player stopped in mid set, packed up her gear and left. That band never played another gig together. I am glad that I had already left the band prior to that last gig.

Thump on,

One_Dude
 
#105
One_Dude said:
... but one of the reasons I left was the presence of illegal controlled substances.
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As with anger-management, use of drugs in the project is non-negotiable with me. Don't get me wrong... I couldn't care less if you want to use drugs. But if you do I will not play with you, and I won't be around you. When we play we put in 100% toward rehearsal and performance. To do otherwise is wasting time. On top of that, it's not compatible with my day job.

Same goes for drinking. I don't drink at rehearsal or at gigs.
 
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#106
LuckyScott said:
Well, not me personally, but the other guys in the band did.
The guitar player, who has anger issues, had too much to drink and started turning up his amp. Finally he got too loud and the drummer complained that he couldn't hear vocals or anything but guitar. The drummer was getting pissed off about the guitar player.
After we stopped playing the drummer was telling me how loud the guitar player was and the guitar player started yelling obscenities and pushed the drummer in the back. This turned into a fist fight, but people dragged them away to separate them.
Of course, all this happened on stage in front of all the people.
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Time to fire the guitar player.
 
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#107
There are consequences for your actions. If there is no consequences, then its time for another band. There is also a difference between getting Sh*tfaced and having a couple drinks. If the guitarist doesn't know the difference or can't control himself, he has other issues and you need another guitarist.
 
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#108
If the Whiskey gig isn’t until the 12th, that’s still plenty of time for normal practice days, correct? My gut says the next time you folks get together, it should be brought up. If they seem somber and truly sorry for what happened, then maybe they are human after all. If either one goes crazy or still seems angry about it, put the kibosh on it right then and there. Option 3 is, the dude is so angry he doesn’t even show up to practice, so he makes the decision super easy: job abandonment :-) better than making an ass out of yourself onstage. Do you want to be remembered as the dude who was in “that band” that got super physical at the Whiskey?
 
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LuckyScott said:
Well, not me personally, but the other guys in the band did.
The guitar player, who has anger issues, had too much to drink and started turning up his amp. Finally he got too loud and the drummer complained that he couldn't hear vocals or anything but guitar. The drummer was getting pissed off about the guitar player.
After we stopped playing the drummer was telling me how loud the guitar player was and the guitar player started yelling obscenities and pushed the drummer in the back. This turned into a fist fight, but people dragged them away to separate them.
Of course, all this happened on stage in front of all the people.
Yikes! How embarrassing ...........
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Anger + alcohol = fired
 
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2112 said:
As with anger-management, use of drugs in the project is non-negotiable with me. Don't get me wrong... I couldn't care less if you want to use drugs. But if you do I will not play with you, and I won't be around you. When we play we put in 100% toward rehearsal and performance. To do otherwise is wasting time. On top of that, it's not compatible with my day job.

Same goes for drinking. I don't drink at rehearsal or at gigs.
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I always automatically read "has anger issues" as "is an ******* and expects it to be overlooked." :)
 
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#115
if one person in the band complains about guitarist playing too loud, then the guitarist will probably just brush it off.... if the WHOLE BAND complain to the guitarist about them being too loud - that will carry more weight and it needs to be done sooner than later, because once a guitarist starts playing loud - if no one says anything to them about it, they are going to think that it's ok to be too loud.

I played briefly with a lead guitarist who believed every song had to have an Eddie Van Halen guitar solo in it.... even Mustang Sally or Brown Eyed Girl........
it all came to a head when we played at an upmarket establishment and guitarist arrives wearing heavy metal type t-shirt and very ripped jeans - they wouldn't let him in dressed like that, so he had to go home and change.
He spent the gig complaining that he was unable to play properly because he wasn't 'dressed like a rock star'....
he compensated by turning up his amp and distortion.... after about 4 songs singer yelled at him "Turn your #$%&* amp down NOW"! I backed him up saying it's too loud and drummer also chimed in saying it was loud.
he did turn his amp down and we finished the gig.

thankfully he left the band before we could fire him!
 
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LuckyScott said:
Well, not me personally, but the other guys in the band did.
The guitar player, who has anger issues, had too much to drink and started turning up his amp. Finally he got too loud and the drummer complained that he couldn't hear vocals or anything but guitar. The drummer was getting pissed off about the guitar player.
After we stopped playing the drummer was telling me how loud the guitar player was and the guitar player started yelling obscenities and pushed the drummer in the back. This turned into a fist fight, but people dragged them away to separate them.
Of course, all this happened on stage in front of all the people.
Yikes! How embarrassing ...........
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Well, l would start looking for a Different Band or tell the Guitar Player, No Alcohol while Performing or Get Lost. This is a Business and should be Run like One.
 
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NZBassman said:
if one person in the band complains about guitarist playing too loud, then the guitarist will probably just brush it off.... if the WHOLE BAND complain to the guitarist about them being too loud - that will carry more weight and it needs to be done sooner than later, because once a guitarist starts playing loud - if no one says anything to them about it, they are going to think that it's ok to be too loud.

I played briefly with a lead guitarist who believed every song had to have an Eddie Van Halen guitar solo in it.... even Mustang Sally or Brown Eyed Girl........
it all came to a head when we played at an upmarket establishment and guitarist arrives wearing heavy metal type t-shirt and very ripped jeans - they wouldn't let him in dressed like that, so he had to go home and change.
He spent the gig complaining that he was unable to play properly because he wasn't 'dressed like a rock star'....
he compensated by turning up his amp and distortion.... after about 4 songs singer yelled at him "Turn your #$%&* amp down NOW"! I backed him up saying it's too loud and drummer also chimed in saying it was loud.
he did turn his amp down and we finished the gig.

thankfully he left the band before we could fire him!
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