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HAD A BAD GIG TONIGHT.......
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Sorry, one of the 2 need to quit, or you need to to avoid further embarrassment
Rock 'n' Roll has no room for quitters. No lesson learned that way.
Gotta hit 'em where it hurts. TIME OFF/FIRING. Just My 2c.
And if not, maybe you should be?
I like the “performance art” angle too - might get a government grant.
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A bad gig when people die, sounds like your guitar player is unhappy. ... His band? ... If not, talk to the leader about auditions or rehab.
Is it just Me, or... does anyone else HATE the term "band leader?" I've NEVER been a FOLLOWER, nor a Dictator. A band, is a BAND.
In 33 years we had to fire two players. We tried talking to them as a group and individually but the behaviour persisted and got worse over time. Not turning up to gigs, playing loud, arguing with staff, this stuff is embarrassing at a gig so now I've developed a zero tolerance policy, behave professionally or you're out.
I was hoping to see something like this happened......
Coulda been worse. It could have been a wedding gig. 
Don't hold your breath waiting to be called back for an anniversary gig! All fooling aside, there is a time and a place to get 
faced if that's your thing. On stage (at work) isn't it. Keep yourself under control while at work, that time includes set up, breakdown, between sets (no hanky panky, fights, obscenity, etc, with the crowd watching) as well as playing time. How you conduct yourself outside of work is your business. That said, I wouldn't share the stage with a child molester no matter how professional they were on stage because you run the risk of guilt by association. Awful, but true. I was in a band that featured two lead singers, male and female. The female was a lady from church who asked me to join. I thought the moon eyed romantic duets were just part of the show until she left her husband for the singer. Her husband is the nicest guy you'd ever meet and I felt terrible not realizing what was going on right under my nose. Sometimes you take things at face value and never suspect anything out of the ordinary. By being part of a group, you automatically are linked with your bandmates at a certain level, for better or worse. I'd rather have a group of solid players that are good citizens than a supergroup full of jerks. Good arranging and preparation can turn an average band (white or otherwise) into a unit capable of great entertainment. In short: FIRE THE GUITARIST NOW!!!!!
Don't hold your breath waiting to be called back for an anniversary gig! All fooling aside, there is a time and a place to get faced if that's your thing. On stage (at work) isn't it. Keep yourself under control while at work, that time includes set up, breakdown, between sets (no hanky panky, fights, obscenity, etc, with the crowd watching) as well as playing time. How you conduct yourself outside of work is your business. That said, I wouldn't share the stage with a child molester no matter how professional they were on stage because you run the risk of guilt by association. Awful, but true. I was in a band that featured two lead singers, male and female. The female was a lady from church who asked me to join. I thought the moon eyed romantic duets were just part of the show until she left her husband for the singer. Her husband is the nicest guy you'd ever meet and I felt terrible not realizing what was going on right under my nose. Sometimes you take things at face value and never suspect anything out of the ordinary. By being part of a group, you automatically are linked with your bandmates at a certain level, for better or worse. I'd rather have a group of solid players that are good citizens than a supergroup full of jerks. Good arranging and preparation can turn an average band (white or otherwise) into a unit capable of great entertainment. In short: FIRE THE GUITARIST NOW!!!!!
Coulda been worse. Coulda been been a MARRIAGE gig. NOT kidding...Coulda been worse. It could have been a wedding gig.
Hey Guy's and Gals...
Sorry. I've spent more time on this thread, than I EVER have on any other one on TB, as it hit HOME.
In 7 years, I've pretty much stopped trying to do anything SERIOUS, as far as BASS goes. I've even sold off a TON of My instruments. I wish that I could have done anything to "SALVAGE" the situation, and the LIFE of the most talented Human that I have EVER met. My musical soulmate, My friend, My Bro.
I jest more than most. But... this "JOKE" had no "punchline."
Just saying...
Sorry. I've spent more time on this thread, than I EVER have on any other one on TB, as it hit HOME.
In 7 years, I've pretty much stopped trying to do anything SERIOUS, as far as BASS goes. I've even sold off a TON of My instruments. I wish that I could have done anything to "SALVAGE" the situation, and the LIFE of the most talented Human that I have EVER met. My musical soulmate, My friend, My Bro.
I jest more than most. But... this "JOKE" had no "punchline."
Just saying...
All groups with a purpose typically need leadership. From what you wrote it seems like you believe that band leader = dictator. While that is certainly true in some cases depending on a particular band's mission, setup, needs, people, experience or leadership style, that is certainly not always the case.
Many times band leadership runs into jams because musicians tend to be an emotional lot, and struggle with leadership on both sides of the coin... that is... both with being the BL and taking direction from a BL.
In my band I'm the BL, and I tend to run things very democratically. But if the need arises I am trusted to make decisions in the band's interest. At the same time I have decades of leadership experience and the guys in our group are mature enough to be over themselves and be led effectively. There's really no drama in this project and we make solid progress toward our goals. And we have a blast while doing it. The unachievable dream! lolol
I'll drink (alot) to that...
But... "ALL" groups?
CHEERS, Brotha!!!
All groups with a purpose typically need leadership. Otherwise they get high-centered due to a lack of mission focus, division of responsibilities, effective decision-making, and dispute resolution.
Thankfully, we bassists have the biggest stick of all onstage.
Though a strong keyboardist swinging a Nord or Roland stage piano can be pretty intense
(but on the serious side, yeah, I don't have the energy for that sort of thing. And I know too many skilled guitarists who don't get hammered at the gig, or period, to repeat-gig with ones who do. Recently stopped playing with a band that had TWO guitarists who liked to drink....yeesh man)
Though a strong keyboardist swinging a Nord or Roland stage piano can be pretty intense
(but on the serious side, yeah, I don't have the energy for that sort of thing. And I know too many skilled guitarists who don't get hammered at the gig, or period, to repeat-gig with ones who do. Recently stopped playing with a band that had TWO guitarists who liked to drink....yeesh man)
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Sometimes, ppl are closer after a fight, you never know
I played in a band once with two guitar players. They were both really good. They would literally fist fight over who was going to play lead and who rhythm on any given song. Luckily they'd do it at band practice and not at a gig. I miss those guys. They were a hoot.
We were 15 years old back then, though. So there's that.
