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Half Rounds?

So I put a set of the D’Addario half rounds on my jazz bass. I have flats on everything else, I really dislike the metallic clack and clank and bright zinginess with new rounds, I like the dead round sound so figured I’d try half rounds.

The good? They sound nice. Nice and warm with just a hint of brightness, almost like dead rounds!

The bad? They feel WEIRD. They feel almost dry. Almost more finger noise and squeak than rounds. Does this ever go away?
 
The bad? They feel WEIRD. They feel almost dry. Almost more finger noise and squeak than rounds. Does this ever go away?

Half-rounds/groundwound do have a unique surface feel of their own. Yes, they do get smoother as they get played in but some of the tackiness will remain.

I stopped using them because they're too "flatwound" in their tonal character. If you want something with a "nicely broken in roundwound tone with a smoother feel", you might want to try the GHS Pressurewound, which is an Alloy 52 "rollerwound".

GHS PW vs. BF.jpeg


DISCLAIMER: I don't have personal experience with the D'A Half Rounds (pure nickel wrap); my experience is based on GHS Brite Flats (Alloy 52 half-rounds).
 
Half-rounds/groundwound do have a unique surface feel of their own. Yes, they do get smoother as they get played in but some of the tackiness will remain.

I stopped using them because they're too "flatwound" in their tonal character. If you want something with a "nicely broken in roundwound tone with a smoother feel", you might want to try the GHS Pressurewound, which is an Alloy 52 "rollerwound".

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DISCLAIMER: I don't have personal experience with the D'A Half Rounds (pure nickel wrap); my experience is based on GHS Brite Flats (Alloy 52 half-rounds).

I think I’ll give them a few weeks and see how they feel. It’s not even the ‘tackiness’ like some flats have when they first go on, these literally feel dried out.
The problem is I really like how they sound- if they don’t get better I’ll try the GHS. It probably doesn’t matter how they sound if I can’t get past the feel and don’t want to play it! Thanks for the input :)
 
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I think I’ll give them a few weeks and see how they feel.
The problem is I really like how they sound- if they don’t get better I’ll try the GHS. Thanks for the input :)

Another thing I like about the GHS Brite Flats is the light set is very nicely balanced both tension and feel.

Here's the comparison in tension figures...

D'A Half Rounds (ENR71):

G 045 - 49.6 (lbs.)
D 065 - 48.9
A 080 - 41.1
E 100 - 38.7

GHS Brite Flats Light (L3075)

G 045 - 38.3 (lbs.)
D 056 - 35.9
A 077 - 39.3
E 098 - 38.8
 
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If you want the tone/feel of dead roundwounds you should use dead roundwounds. No half-rounds will give you that. Different tone, different feel. Half-rounds are usually too stiff/inarticulate for my taste.

I totally understand what you're saying about new roundwounds. Most of them are too bright/clanky for my taste as well. But some roundwounds go dead a LOT faster than others, and GHS roundwounds tend to go dead faster than most. GHS Boomers don't need more than a couple of hours of playing to get rid of excessive clank/zing. After 2-3 weeks of regular playing they are quite "dead". I've never understood why Boomers are listed as brighter than Pressurewounds on the GHS website. This may be correct for the first couple of hours, but after 1-2 weeks of playing, Boomers will be darker/warmer sounding than Pressurewounds for the rest of their respective lives. Boomers are actually some of the warmest sounding strings you'll ever find, except seom types of flats, and they only need a couple of weeks to get there. Personally I think a broken-in set of Boomers is even darker than GHS Brite Flats (which aren't really flats at all but half-rounds/groundwounds).

GHS Balanced Nickels are even warmer sounding than Boomer and also go dead relatively fast. My problem with Balanced Nickels is that they reach a point where they are TOO dead. With most roundwounds, including Boomers, I don't feel the need to replace them for YEARS. I like the tone of "dead" roundwounds. But with GHS Balanced Nickels they reach a point where I need to replace them only after 2-3 months of regular playing. I also find them slightly too supple for my playing style. I like them for recording, where I tend to play more controlled. But for live shows, where I sometimes like to dig in harder, the tone kinda falls apart.

The BEST "dead" roundwound tone I've ever gotten is with Pyramid Pure Nickels but these will need a couple of months of regular playing before they mellow out properly. Once they're broken in they have the warmest, fattest roundwound tone I've ever heard. They just need a bit of time to get there.

But most roundwounds can give you a nice "dead" roundwound tone if you give them enough time. Just avoid D'Addarios as their bright/clanky signature tone (even their flats!) means they will need a lot more time to "go dead" than many other strings. For many players this will be an advantage, but if you want "dead" roundwouds D'Addarios are one of the worst choices you could make IMO. I would avoid Slinkys as well. They mellow out slightly faster than D'Addarios but I don't like the tone of dead Slinkys. They just go DEAD, in a really bad way IMO.
 
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If you want the tone/feel of dead roundwounds you should use dead roundwounds. No half-rounds will give you that. Different tone, different feel. Half-rounds are usually too stiff/inarticulate for my taste.

I totally understand what you're saying about new roundwounds. Most of them are too bright/clanky for my taste as well. But some roundwounds go dead a LOT faster than others, and GHS roundwounds tend to go dead faster than most. GHS Boomers don't need more than a couple of hours of playing to get rid of excessive clank/zing. After 2-3 weeks of regular playing they are quite "dead". I've never understood why Boomers are listed as brighter than Pressurewounds on the GHS website. This may be correct for the first couple of hours, but after 1-2 weeks of playing, Boomers will be darker/warmer sounding than Pressurewounds for the rest of their respective lives. Boomers are actually some of the warmest sounding strings you'll ever find, except seom types of flats, and they only need a couple of weeks to get there. Personally I think a broken-in set of Boomers is even darker than GHS Brite Flats (which aren't really flats at all but half-rounds/groundwounds).

GHS Balanced Nickels are even warmer sounding than Boomer and also go dead relatively fast. My problem with Balanced Nickels is that they reach a point where they are TOO dead. With most roundwounds, including Boomers, I don't feel the need to replace them for YEARS. I like the tone of "dead" roundwounds. But with GHS Balanced Nickels they reach a point where I need to replace them only after 2-3 months of regular playing. I also find them slightly too supple for my playing style. I like them for recording, where I tend to play more controlled. But for live shows, where I sometimes like to dig in harder, the tone kinda falls apart.

The BEST "dead" roundwound tone I've ever gotten is with Pyramid Pure Nickels but these will need a couple of months of regular playing before they mellow out properly. Once they're broken in they have the warmest, fattest roundwound tone I've ever heard. They just need a bit of time to get there.

But most roundwounds can give you a nice "dead" roundwound tone if you give them enough time. Just avoid D'Addarios as their bright/clanky signature tone (even their flats!) means they will need a lot more time to "go dead" than many other strings. For many players this will be an advantage, but if you want "dead" roundwouds D'Addarios are one of the worst choices you could make IMO. I would avoid Slinkys as well. They mellow out slightly faster than D'Addarios but I don't like the tone of dead Slinkys. They just go DEAD, in a really bad way IMO.

I’ve never actually tried a set of GHS strings. I tried and support local businesses when I can and the ONE music shop in my city doesn’t stock them. I love flats and have flats on All my other bases, but I like to keep the jazz with something more lively.

I last had Ernie Ball cobalt rounds on, I did like them but the break in time is so long.
Thanks for the tips- I’ll likely revisit this thread when I decide what to do about the half rounds.
 
I recorded my brite flats on a 6 string 36 inch scale 6 string. It's too long but may give you an idea. I even used a pick - (4:45) which I rarely do. they are high tension specially for a 36 inch scale bass, It did not really bother me or the bass neck. I have since gone back to high beamson that bass but I will be putting them on my PJ or J. Hearing it now, I think it's really going to be a good groove bass sound

Bass String -comparison GHS Brite Flats 36 Scale

too long - I recorded it for me - so I'll remember how it sounds all over

I also have a pressurewound on my 35 scale fretless
 
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I used a set of the Half Rounds on my Ibanez SR for about a year (until they sounded dead/had zero sustain left). Wanted to try something different so I replaced them with GHS Pressurewounds that have now been on for a couple of months.

Like others, I didn't like the feel of the Half Rounds out of the package, but after a week or two they became less tacky and started to play really nicely. Plus they gave me a sound that was slightly brighter than flats but still thumpy, which was perfect for a lot of reggae/dub stuff I tend to mess around with. By contrast the GHS strings felt good out of the package but were a lot brighter than I was hoping they would be and don't have the same thumpy character. Likely going to put Half Rounds back on that bass soon.
 
By contrast the GHS strings felt good out of the package but were a lot brighter than I was hoping they would be and don't have the same thumpy character. Likely going to put Half Rounds back on that bass soon.

Don't expect "thumpy" from GHS Pressurewounds; they're more like "mellowed-down rounds with a smoother feel". As I mentioned earlier, the Brite Flats are more "flatwound" in their tonal character than the PWs.

https://www.talkbass.com/threads/ghs-brite-flats-vs-pressurewounds.1340644/
 
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The bad? They feel WEIRD. They feel almost dry. Almost more finger noise and squeak than rounds. Does this ever go away?

I don't think it ever goes away. I have had a set on a beater bass for around 20 years, and it still feels this way. On the positive side of things it doesn't sound much different than it ever did.

I recently threw a set on a cheap acoustic bass guitar to mitigate the finger noise from the phosphor bronze strings, it helped quite a bit, but I should have gone with flats.
 
I put LaBella LTFs on everything, except my 32" bass that gets their thru-body flats. I think the smaller diameter makes them sound a little brighter, but still have the flat wound vibe. Besides, rounds have gotten to where they have that fingernails on a chalkboard feeling to me...