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Hartke 10" 'Substitute' Speakers

#21
MountainMikeCS said:
Trying new cabs - I wish I could. The challenge for me is finding a good variety to test. I live a little more than one hour north of NYC and checking with the local stores they all stock plenty of the following new cabs:

Fender
Ampeg
Hartke - Mostly Sam Ash
Phil Jones

Then there is the rare appear of these in cabs or combo form:

Peavey
Orange
Markbass
Trace Elliot
Quilter

And rarely does anyone near me (that I've been able to determine by calling in advance) stock these:

Aquilar
Trickfish
Bare
Mesa Boogie
Darkglass
Everything else.

So - I either hear it in the wild (which is the case with the compact Peavey Headliner I heard someone play on a boardwalk gig), or get lucky and find a used one to try. Other than that, its all searching on Youtube with a good pair of headphones and finding reviews recorded with good mics.
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Maybe try listening without phones? If it passes muster on a tiny phone speaker then how bad could it be? ;)
 
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MountainMikeCS said:
Got it. Good point. I am assuming that I would like the sound of any speaker I haven't heard before.
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This is an assumption that I think you will find wrong. You, like everyone else, have personal tastes and you might not like something that another player really likes. The opposite also applies.
 
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MountainMikeCS said:
Thanks - I didn't know that B&H actually stocked amps. I see them selling them online.
I used to work near B&H downtown and shop there for computer games and accessories most weekends. "Just remember to save all the packaging and everything that came with it in case you need to do a return!" - They would always say.
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What I like about B&H is that if you're buying in-store from out of state, they'll offer to ship it from the Brooklyn warehouse to save sales taxes, and it almost always shows up the next day in CT.
 
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If you can deal with a 4 ohm cab, you might take a chance on these drivers: Link Removed
I used to live in the Middletown NY area, so I am quite familiar with Alto Music. I had a 210 Harte combo amp and they charged me $275 for one replacement speaker. The above linked speaker will run you around $80 a pair.
 
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dandbassman said:
If you can deal with a 4 ohm cab, you might take a chance on these drivers: Link Removed
I used to live in the Middletown NY area, so I am quite familiar with Alto Music. I had a 210 Harte combo amp and they charged me $275 for one replacement speaker. The above linked speaker will run you around $80 a pair.
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The sensitivity is pretty poor compared with what most OEM manufacturers use... by over 3dB. This means that it takes twice the power for the same volume.
 
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agedhorse said:
The sensitivity is pretty poor compared with what most OEM manufacturers use... by over 3dB. This means that it takes twice the power for the same volume.
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Power is pretty cheap and lightweight these days. I have 2 single 10 inch cabs with these and stack vertically. Two more Eden CX110 cabs stacked on top of the pair modeled after the Eden’s wired in series parallel gives me a 4 10 vertical stack that can cover quite a few venues. Plus, the modular concept lets me choose how many cabs I need for the gig. Sorry to digress from the OP here…..
 
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dandbassman said:
Power is pretty cheap and lightweight these days. I have 2 single 10 inch cabs with these and stack vertically. Two more Eden CX110 cabs stacked on top of the pair modeled after the Eden’s wired in series parallel gives me a 4 10 vertical stack that can cover quite a few venues. Plus, the modular concept lets me choose how many cabs I need for the gig. Sorry to digress from the OP here…..
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His power may be limited by his current choice of amp. Sensitivity is often overlooked in the quest for cheaper, or higher power handling
 
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If anyone needs one, I have a 16 ohm Hartke aluminum cone speaker taken from an early era sealed cab 210XL. The original drivers had the old style cone, and this Hartke replacement is the newer style. (The factory added weight to the cone on the old speaker in order to mate it with the newer style).
 
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agedhorse said:
His power may be limited by his current choice of amp. Sensitivity is often overlooked in the quest for cheaper, or higher power handling
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Actually I have two separate heads - I'm shooting for multiple options for small to medium-large venues:

Hartke HA4000 - this powered my old Hartke 410 XL cab I just sold (sold the cab only - kept the speakers). 400watts at 4 ohms. Seeking a 8ohm 210 or similar to add to my GK 8 ohm 212 for larger venues. The Hartke is a beast.

Aguilar Tone Hammer 350 - new bass head. 350Watts at 4 ohms; 185 at 8 ohms. I intend this for small to medium-small venues. Sounds massive with the new GK 212 but really, really sounds great with the custom converted Hartke 210 8 ohm vented cab I have (that was created from an old HA3500 combo). Very warm. Cozy warm.

I'm learning upright as well and the Aguilar works well with the piezo bridge pickup and Fishman preamp I'm using with the upright. Sounds really warm with my Fender Precisions.

I still have 4 10" 8 ohm speakers laying around from the 410XL - I'm actually experimenting with creating my own custom cabs since I have so much wood laying around and like to experiment.
 

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