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Have You Ever Seen A Ghost?

I did catch some sort of an anomaly on my iPhone in 2014.

My son was playing with Young Beautiful in a Hurry, which is Brendan McCreary's band (Brendan does the music for the SyFy series Defiance, and his brother Bear does the music for The Walking Dead and many others.) The clip is from a show at Molly Malone's in L.A. in October 2014.

The anomaly appears out of nowhere about 18 seconds in. My wife and I were about 25' away from the stage. You'll see the anomaly appear near the light on the ceiling above the stage, then comes out to about where we were seated and disappears.

It's not dust, it's not a bug, nor a reflection. Enjoy.

 
I did catch some sort of an anomaly on my iPhone in 2014.

My son was playing with Young Beautiful in a Hurry, which is Brendan McCreary's band (Brendan does the music for the SyFy series Defiance, and his brother Bear does the music for The Walking Dead and many others.) The clip is from a show at Molly Malone's in L.A. in October 2014.

The anomaly appears out of nowhere about 18 seconds in. My wife and I were about 25' away from the stage. You'll see the anomaly appear near the light on the ceiling above the stage, then comes out to about where we were seated and disappears.

It's not dust, it's not a bug, nor a reflection. Enjoy.


Lol it's a thread or something.
 
There is documented authentic evidence of EVP's......crazy enough for you?

Scientists told us the Coelacanth was extinct........so for you no doubt they are.
There are a number of possible natural causes for "EVP", look at Wikipedia for a brief introduction.

Does "science" think the coelacanth is extinct now? No, because evidence shows otherwise. Your example does the opposite of what you want it to, because unlike unfounded belief science is open to change based on evidence. If there were meaningful evidence for ghosts science would accept it.
 
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There are a number of possible natural causes for "EVP", look at Wikipedia for a brief introduction.

Does "science" think the coelacanth is extinct now? No, because evidence shows otherwise. Your example does the opposite of what you want it to, because unlike unfounded belief science is open to change based on evidence. If there were meaningful evidence for ghosts science would accept it.

The typical scientist scapegoat answer.

Which is >- "we're right until we say we're wrong".

Science DID think the Coelacanth was extinct. And every school book upheld that notion. Nowhere did the books say " They're extinct right now but in the future they might not be".

There are other examples where long-held scientific truths turned out to be incorrect.

Wikipedia? You're telling me Wikipedia is THE bastion of scientific information? Even though they themselves admit their text is openly subject to correction.

Many of the "scientific" findings that science takes credit for through the ages were just ordinary people doing a heap of exploratory work. They didn't even call themselves scientists.

There are many good scientific findings.....yes. But there's also a scientific element these days that seems to think they are THE authority on everything.

Every year they tack on a few more thousand years to the existence of man. In my life it's gone from 20 thousand years or so to millions.

And the longer they go with this, the more stupid mankind looks.

Millions of years? Should have evolved incredibly...but didn't. All the major "scientific" breakthroughs have come within basically the last 150 years.

Whenever science can't fathom something, it immediately tries to explain it away with natural causes.

Which is their way of saying "We don't know what it is ...therefor it must be this." And nowadays " It must be this until we say otherwise".

Talk about a cult mentality. Those at the top dictating the rules and reality to the masses below.

If science is open to change at any moment ...then I don't need to believe anything you say because tomorrow the facts could be different.

If the facts could be different tomorrow based on new findings...then anything you say today is just an opinion..
And opinions are like sphincters....everybody's got one...
 
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The typical scientist scapegoat answer.

Which is >- "we're right until we say we're wrong".

Science DID think the Coelacanth was extinct. And every school book upheld that notion. Nowhere did the books say " They're extinct right now but in the future they might not be".

There are other examples where long-held scientific truths turned out to be incorrect.

Wikipedia? You're telling me Wikipedia is THE bastion of scientific information? Even though they themselves admit their text is openly subject to correction.

Many of the "scientific" findings that science takes credit for through the ages were just ordinary people doing a heap of exploratory work. They didn't even call themselves scientists.

There are many good scientific findings.....yes. But there's also a scientific element these days that seems to think they are THE authority on everything.

Every year they tack on a few more thousand years to the existence of man. In my life it's gone from 20 thousand years or so to millions.

And the longer they go with this, the more stupid mankind looks.

Millions of years? Should have evolved incredibly...but didn't. All the major "scientific" breakthroughs have come within basically the last 150 years.

Whenever science can't fathom something, it immediately tries to explain it away with natural causes.

Which is their way of saying "We don't know what it is ...therefor it must be this." And nowadays " It must be this until we say otherwise".

Talk about a cult mentality. Those at the top dictating the rules and reality to the masses below.

If science is open to change at any moment ...then I don't need to believe anything you say because tomorrow the facts could be different.

If the facts could be different tomorrow based on new findings...then anything you say today is just an opinion..
And opinions are like sphincters....everybody's got one...
It's becoming abundantly clear you have an ulterior reason for doubting science, which can't be broached here, so I'll just leave this thought and wish you a happy day.

"There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge."
-Isaac Asimov
 
The typical scientist scapegoat answer.

Which is >- "we're right until we say we're wrong".

Science DID think the Coelacanth was extinct. And every school book upheld that notion. Nowhere did the books say " They're extinct right now but in the future they might not be".

There are other examples where long-held scientific truths turned out to be incorrect.

Wikipedia? You're telling me Wikipedia is THE bastion of scientific information? Even though they themselves admit their text is openly subject to correction.

Many of the "scientific" findings that science takes credit for through the ages were just ordinary people doing a heap of exploratory work. They didn't even call themselves scientists.

There are many good scientific findings.....yes. But there's also a scientific element these days that seems to think they are THE authority on everything.

Every year they tack on a few more thousand years to the existence of man. In my life it's gone from 20 thousand years or so to millions.

And the longer they go with this, the more stupid mankind looks.

Millions of years? Should have evolved incredibly...but didn't. All the major "scientific" breakthroughs have come within basically the last 150 years.

Whenever science can't fathom something, it immediately tries to explain it away with natural causes.

Which is their way of saying "We don't know what it is ...therefor it must be this." And nowadays " It must be this until we say otherwise".

Talk about a cult mentality. Those at the top dictating the rules and reality to the masses below.

If science is open to change at any moment ...then I don't need to believe anything you say because tomorrow the facts could be different.

If the facts could be different tomorrow based on new findings...then anything you say today is just an opinion..
And opinions are like sphincters....everybody's got one...

Science does indeed try to find natural causes for things it cannot yet explain. This is a huge leap over finding unnatural causes for what it cannot explain.

Its adoption by man is precisely what caused the exponential increase in knowledge over our history, and this effect has a scientific explanation.

If science where not open to change it would be as useful as religion to describe the natural world, in other words, not very.

There is no top in science, peers review each other's work and the work of any scientist has to stand on its own merits and be reproducible to be accepted. There is no dictating to anyone and science prevents an elite for inventing a reality that justifies the ruling class, though people have tried to pervert science to this very end.

And that's not just my opinion, man.
 
The typical scientist scapegoat answer.

Which is >- "we're right until we say we're wrong".

Science DID think the Coelacanth was extinct. And every school book upheld that notion. Nowhere did the books say " They're extinct right now but in the future they might not be".

There are other examples where long-held scientific truths turned out to be incorrect.

Wikipedia? You're telling me Wikipedia is THE bastion of scientific information? Even though they themselves admit their text is openly subject to correction.

Many of the "scientific" findings that science takes credit for through the ages were just ordinary people doing a heap of exploratory work. They didn't even call themselves scientists.

There are many good scientific findings.....yes. But there's also a scientific element these days that seems to think they are THE authority on everything.

Every year they tack on a few more thousand years to the existence of man. In my life it's gone from 20 thousand years or so to millions.

And the longer they go with this, the more stupid mankind looks.

Millions of years? Should have evolved incredibly...but didn't. All the major "scientific" breakthroughs have come within basically the last 150 years.

Whenever science can't fathom something, it immediately tries to explain it away with natural causes.

Which is their way of saying "We don't know what it is ...therefor it must be this." And nowadays " It must be this until we say otherwise".

Talk about a cult mentality. Those at the top dictating the rules and reality to the masses below.

If science is open to change at any moment ...then I don't need to believe anything you say because tomorrow the facts could be different.

If the facts could be different tomorrow based on new findings...then anything you say today is just an opinion..
And opinions are like sphincters....everybody's got one...
Science is a cult mentality where the top dictates reality to the mass below?!?! Sounds like you got something completely backwards there. Science is about providing the best explanation using what has been experimentally verified and peer reviewed before any conclusion is accepted as being better than what is accepted today. It is also about accepting that some one will eventually come along who builds on the work of others to provide a more complete explanation than what you might have previously accepted. In other words, it's about being open minded.

Concluding that some unexplained phenomena must be the result of some mysterious bogeyman because it can't be explained any other way is what happened in the Dark Ages. That was a time when people who were trying to be open minded, trying to learn, trying to understand the world around them were shut down by the ignorant cultists who refused to give up their unfounded and silly superstitions. And too often those closed minded and ignorant cultists of superstition made many of those intelligent, open minded, and curious people pay painfully gruesome, gory, and horrific prices for daring to challenge the nonsense of the superstitious ignorant. Is that where you wish us to return? To the days of the rack, of the breaking wheel, and of the Pear to try preventing learning from stepping on the toes of superstition?

No, the cultish mentality where the top dictates the rules and reality to the masses below is NOT the domain of science. That's the domain of topics that can't be discussed outside of the TB Lobby.
 

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