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Have You Ever Seen A Ghost?

Nah. There is lots of "settled science" (although that can and will change with new evidence, which is what makes science so powerful). Things we deal with on a regular basis are generally very well understood. I personally won't take a position on anything until I know I know what I'm talking about. Up to that point I will simply say "I don't know." There's nothing wrong with not knowing something; that's where science and learning happen: in the unknown. There is, however, much wrong with insisting you know something which is wrong or for which you do not have evidence.

Science is the best tool we have for understanding reality. Scientific uncertainty doesn't mean we can never know anything, contrarily it gives us a reasonable understanding of how well we can know something. For a great deal of things the uncertainty is very small. Theoretically it's possible for all the atoms that make up your body to spontaneously and simultaneously teleport to some random place in the universe, but based on observation we know that's highly unlikely.
Well, I agree. So let's put it this way: There is no rational reason to believe in ghosts. Maybe they exist, but there is no evidence for their existence.
 
Consider physics for a moment:

just as many parallel sheets of paper, which are two dimensional objects (breadth and length) can exist in a third dimension (height), parallel universes can also exist in higher dimensions.....

so it would safe to assume one possible explanation for ghost sightings is that we are actually seeing into another dimension...or parallel universe.
 
Consider physics for a moment:

just as many parallel sheets of paper, which are two dimensional objects (breadth and length) can exist in a third dimension (height), parallel universes can also exist in higher dimensions.....

so it would safe to assume one possible explanation for ghost sightings is that we are actually seeing into another dimension...or parallel universe.

It would not be safe to assume that at all, actually.

I had a feeling science itself would end up being questioned in this thread.
 
Consider physics for a moment:

just as many parallel sheets of paper, which are two dimensional objects (breadth and length) can exist in a third dimension (height), parallel universes can also exist in higher dimensions.....

so it would safe to assume one possible explanation for ghost sightings is that we are actually seeing into another dimension...or parallel universe.
That'd be really cool, but there's no reason to believe it. Your assertion that parallel universes "can exist in higher dimensions" is completely unfounded. There is plenty of mathematical and cosmological speculation about the possibility of a multiverse, but no experimental evidence to support it. Further, even if other universes do exist, there's no reason to believe that we would or could have conscious interaction with them, and even then one could only speculate as to what the nature of that interaction might be.

I suppose it is "safe to assume" that a "possible explanation" for ghost sightings is that we are actually seeing into other dimensions, but it is not safe to assume that we are.

Finally, you are not talking about physics, you are talking about metaphysics since there is no physical evidence of anything you surmised.

By the way, here's a picture of my daughter holding a Western Long-Nosed Snake when she was only 4 (my daughter, not the snake).

WLNSnake03.jpg
 
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It would not be safe to assume that at all, actually.

I had a feeling science itself would end up being questioned in this thread.
Ok well, seems to me that the scientists showed up and interrupted the cool, creepy story thread and by stating their disbelief, triggering the debate thereby effing up a cool creepy story thread. If you had just let it be, the argument would not have broken open and we'd just have some creepy stories to read about.

Maybe just once, you could have just let this be about creepy cool unproven stories instead of going on and on about scientific method.

If just once you suspend disbelief for a minute and think about how your body would react and feel if you were in the situation described, you can experience some of the creepiness and chills that the story evokes.

You know, just as good fiction evokes emotion. Besides we all know that scientific types are all a bunch of Lord of the Rings fanboys.

Would it kill you to just let the creepy story thread be just that for once? You don't have to read or believe, just let it be.
 
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Ok well, seems to me that the scientists showed up and interrupted the cool, creepy story thread and by stating their disbelief, triggering the debate thereby effing up a cool creepy story thread. If you had just let it be, the argument would not have broken open and we'd just have some creepy stories to read about.

Maybe just once, you could have just let this be about creepy cool unproven stories instead of going on and on about scientific method.

If just once you suspend disbelief for a minute and think about how your body would react and feel if you were in the situation described, you can experience some of the creepiness and chills that the story evokes.

You know, just as good fiction evokes emotion. Besides we all know that scientific types are all a bunch of Lord of the Rings fanboys.

Would it kill you to just let the creepy story thread be just that for once? You don't have to read or believe, just let it be.


Are you a ghost? That's creepy.
 
Ok well, seems to me that the scientists showed up and interrupted the cool, creepy story thread and by stating their disbelief, triggering the debate thereby effing up a cool creepy story thread. If you had just let it be, the argument would not have broken open and we'd just have some creepy stories to read about.

Maybe just once, you could have just let this be about creepy cool unproven stories instead of going on and on about scientific method.

If just once you suspend disbelief for a minute and think about how your body would react and feel if you were in the situation described, you can experience some of the creepiness and chills that the story evokes.

You know, just as good fiction evokes emotion. Besides we all know that scientific types are all a bunch of Lord of the Rings fanboys.

Would it kill you to just let the creepy story thread be just that for once? You don't have to read or believe, just let it be.

Sorry for harshing your creep, dude.
 
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There is a direction I could go in here...but the limitations and rules of TB prevent it.

Let's just say there are certain entrenched organizations that 100% validate the appearance of apparitions in certain landmark events.

We can now rest assured none of it ever happened. They were mistaken.

If you can't mention it don't mention it, it's too much of a tease. I seriously have no clue what you are alluding to.

You know, this thread was really interesting- a mixture of creepy stories and some intelligent and fascinating possible explanations for phenomena that is not easily understood.

To me it wasn't the 'scientists' that ruined it, but the arguments attacking science itself.

I find the natural world and the way we experience it infinitely more interesting than superstition and facile explanations that seem likely or obvious but that have no basis in fact or how we understand things to work.

Instead of jumping to discredit the skeptics why not seek a bit of knowledge instead? It is infinitely more rewarding than pseudo science and superstition.
 
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Ok well, seems to me that the scientists showed up and interrupted the cool, creepy story thread and by stating their disbelief, triggering the debate thereby effing up a cool creepy story thread. If you had just let it be, the argument would not have broken open and we'd just have some creepy stories to read about.

Maybe just once, you could have just let this be about creepy cool unproven stories instead of going on and on about scientific method.

If just once you suspend disbelief for a minute and think about how your body would react and feel if you were in the situation described, you can experience some of the creepiness and chills that the story evokes.

You know, just as good fiction evokes emotion. Besides we all know that scientific types are all a bunch of Lord of the Rings fanboys.

Would it kill you to just let the creepy story thread be just that for once? You don't have to read or believe, just let it be.
What, my cat picture didn't do that for you?

I don't get scared at made up nonsense. The unknown isn't scary, it's a fascinating place of discovery. Living people are far more dangerous than dead people.
 
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If you can't mention it don't mention it, it's too much of a tease. I seriously have no clue what you are alluding to.

You know, this thread was really interesting- a mixture of creepy stories and some intelligent and fascinating possible explanations for phenomena that is not easily understood.

To me it wasn't the 'scientists' that ruined it, but the arguments attacking science itself.

I find the natural world and the way we experience it infinitely more interesting than superstition and facile explanations that seem likely or obvious but that have no basis in fact or how we understand things to work.

Instead of jumping to discredit the skeptics why not seek a bit of knowledge instead? It is infinitely more rewarding than pseudo science and superstition.
Nah, nah and nope. It was a silly fun thread before a couple of science types came in and flatly, without humor, just sucked the air out.
 
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