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headphone practice solution

The God-Complex attitudes are getting pretty common in here now. Bunch of guys pretending to know-it-all who haven't done much except find fault with other people's suggestions.

There's no reason there should even have been 5 pages on this question. This is so ridiculously common and simple that most people don't even have to ask about it.
 
There's no reason there should even have been 5 pages on this question. This is so ridiculously common and simple that most people don't even have to ask about it.

And yet some of us didn't know you're not supposed to Y-cable two amps into the same speaker, although we appear to be reaching a fragile consensus around that issue now.

Seriously, though, if you have some kind of issue with me that you want to talk about PM me or something. And if you don't like this discussion, there's lots of other ones to choose from.

Me, I'm gonna buy me some good headphones, the Behringer mixer and a 1/8 -> dual RCA to get the iPod into it. It may not be the solution for everyone. But I think, thanks to all that's been said here, I now have a pretty good idea what the available solutions are.
 
And yet some of us didn't know you're not supposed to Y-cable two amps into the same speaker, although we appear to be reaching a fragile consensus around that issue now.

Seriously, though, if you have some kind of issue with me that you want to talk about PM me or something. And if you don't like this discussion, there's lots of other ones to choose from.

Me, I'm gonna buy me some good headphones, the Behringer mixer and a 1/8 -> dual RCA to get the iPod into it. It may not be the solution for everyone. But I think, thanks to all that's been said here, I now have a pretty good idea what the available solutions are.
Nice.
So I tried to offer you some ideas that have worked in real life for real people and because it didn't look good on paper to some folks, now I'm not welcome in your discussion?

Well, I'm glad you agreed to use one of the many solutions offered FREE OF CHARGE to you.
 
I am grateful for many of the ideas put forth in this discussion--and I've said so previously. Your own personal contributions, though? Let's see.

You jumped in to express your displeasure at my use of the word 'ghetto' some five pages earlier in the discussion while simultaneously championing the solution of listening to two headphones at once. Then you got salty over the fact that people who know something about electrical engineering are skeptical about hooking up two amps to the same speakers at once.

Let's just say I'm really grateful for most of the comments made here and leave it at that.
 
Just saw this earlier today, might be of interest to some:

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This one is just an adapter to get your instrument into your iPad/iPhone/Mac....and you listen by through the headphones out of that other device. Different take. But at least it has a level slider and a multifunction indicator light.

Still... $100? Really?
 
This is what I use, Just plug it into a USB slot and your Bass into it.
Amazon.com: Tascam US-100 USB 2.0 Audio Interface: Musical Instruments

I have a set of headphones to go with it. Any will do it takes a standard 1/8th input for phones, I can even use my I-POD earbuds if I wanted. I was thinking of some skull crushers.

I have these and like them.

Amazon.com: Behringer HPX2000 Headphones High-Definition DJ Headphones: Musical Instruments


Here's the next item on my wish list. Plug into your I-POD!
Amazon.com: IK Multimedia AmpliTube iRig Adapter for iPod Touch, iPhone, and iPad: MP3 Players & Accessories
 
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As stated before, they make and sell Y cables and adapters so that you can connect one output to two inputs. Previously unstated (by me), but implied, is that they make mixers so that you can connect two (or more) outputs to one input.

Everyone arguing otherwise, please identify where and when you obtained your electrical engineering degree. I may be contacting your alma mater's accreditation authority.

No degree here, just a little real-world experience, and I'm backing off a bit from what I said.

Y cords have worked ok for me in the past for non-amplified or very weakly amplified signals. A passive bass, for example, or the line out of a tape deck. A headphone out is hotter than a line out but I would use it anyway and if it sounded distorted, I would just turn the volume down on that device to lower the output level.

No doubt a mixer would be better and safer for all the equipment and you wouldn't be voiding any warranties.

No doubt you could fry some gear if you turned the input devices up too far. That said I've commonly done it this way and with a little discretion on the levels, I haven't had any problems.

And, I don't know how hot the headphone jack on an ipod is. Is it really that much stronger than the headphone out on a stereo?

It was poor judgment on my part to recommend any action which could potentially damage anyone's equipment. I should have listened to my own disclaimer and sat down and shut up :)

I apologize.
 
I am grateful for many of the ideas put forth in this discussion--and I've said so previously. Your own personal contributions, though? Let's see.

You jumped in to express your displeasure at my use of the word 'ghetto' some five pages earlier in the discussion while simultaneously championing the solution of listening to two headphones at once. Then you got salty over the fact that people who know something about electrical engineering are skeptical about hooking up two amps to the same speakers at once.

Let's just say I'm really grateful for most of the comments made here and leave it at that.
Granted, I guess I did get a little "salty" over some things said here. That's my fault and I should have clarified myself a bit. I apologize.

For what it's worth (which might not be much at this point), I spent 5 years as a NICET certified industrial fire alarm and gas detection system designer before leaving the lucritive Electrical/Fire & Gas Engineering field to return to the more stable and portable Medical field. I'm not as ignorant of electrical engineering as has been assumed.

That said, I gathered from your OP that due to budget constraints, you were not looking for the ideal solution to the problem but a very affordable one (i.e. less than $100 closer to $50).

That's the point where I got offended by the derrogatory labeling of "ghetto". Ghetto implies laziness and lack of thoughtfulness. I think that being resourceful enough to make due with what you have even if it is less than ideal--which naturally requires cutting corners and assuming risks--is still far above ghetto. Yes, I found the term (and the others you listed) offensive. Especially in the light that some members of TB don't have the $ to buy equipment and must think out a solution. I just found the whole approach disrespectful. I think that's the point that you lost me and I became a bit hostile.

Bottom line, I was trying to offer some cost saving albiet less than ideal (which brings some risks) solutions and felt I was being met with scorn and disrespect. I suppose those feelings came from the fact that I'm not completely ignorant about electrical engineering and I do have a background in that field. Since no one knew that and they only saw my "risky" improvised suggestions, it seem to be assumed that I'm clueless.

I became further irritated when it seemed you were not able to figure out a solution for this problem yet the ideas that others brought were not good enough. I guess for some reason that just didn't seem to make any sense. Seemed that if you don't know what do to then you don't know enough to tell others that their ideas were wrong. I guess that's not really what you were trying to do; my perception was wrong there.

In any case if you buy equipment dedicated to the purpose, as you said you would, you shouldn't have any problems. I just don't imagine that you'll be able to do so for under $50 as you stated you would prefer.

I apologize for becoming more hostile.
 
Forget about it, bro. And by the way I totally see where I was being a whiny little B, rejecting solutions while simultaneously not having a better idea of my own to put forth.

Still! I think I really can do it for $50. That Behringer mixer, even with the 1/8"-dual RCA adapter to get the iPod in, will be well under $50 total. Granted, it's got 5 channels and I only need two, it's got phantom power on a mic input that I don't need, etc., but it's still a really cheap solution that ticks all the right boxes and doesn't have a lot of downsides.

First stop, headphones. I lust for the Sony 7506 that I tried the other day, but at almost $90, I don't think so. Now I think the JCV HARX700 for around $40

Amazon.com: JVC HARX700 Precision Sound Full Size Headphones - Black: Electronics

Once I get that nailed down, I'll pick up the Behringer and the adapter and I should be golden.
 
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If you're only dealing with a bass and an mp3 player, then you should take a look at the Boss TU-88. It's closer to $50 than to $100. It includes a tuner a metronome too.

$56 at Amazon. It has a tuner and a metronome, but I don't really need them. I'll be running my bass signal through my pedal board (which includes a tuner) into The Solution. I won't be running a dry bass instrument into it. So it's basically more expensive and has more features I don't need. Could be the perfect solution for those seeking to run their instrument right into it, though.
 
$56 at Amazon. It has a tuner and a metronome, but I don't really need them. I'll be running my bass signal through my pedal board (which includes a tuner) into The Solution. I won't be running a dry bass instrument into it. So it's basically more expensive and has more features I don't need. Could be the perfect solution for those seeking to run their instrument right into it, though.

No difference between the signal from the board vs the signal from the bass as far as the TU-88 is concerned unless you're doing some big time amplification on your board. Extra features shouldn't matter one way or the other either as long as the UI doesn't get messy. Still, can't beat the expense argument though.
 
I think maybe the big takeaway here is that there's a lot of solutions to this problem, but the right one for you is going to vary. Do you want effects? An mp3 player included? Battery powered or AC? Plug your bass straight in, or use a wet signal? Tiny unit or desktop unit? Road-ready or cheap plastic doesn't matter?

The ideal functional solution for me did appear here. And it costs $150. The less-than-ideal solution costs $40 and all I'm sacrificing is form factor not functionality.
 
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Super tempting! However, I have a big head (shut up, y'all) and comfort is a big worry. I can't' even wear most baseball caps or sunglasses. Among the first reviews of these Sonys: too tight! Among the first reviews of the JVCs: I have a big head and they are comfortable! Plus they're cheaper. I think I'm gonna take a chance on the JVCs.
 
The ideal functional solution for me did appear here. And it costs $150. The less-than-ideal solution costs $40 and all I'm sacrificing is form factor not functionality.


There is one function you will sacrifice - you'll lose stereo between the mp3 player and the headphones with the Behringer mixer. The TU-88 carries the stereo signal from the mp3 player through to the headphones. The mixer is mono only.
 
Check out the Sony MDR-V6 headphones ($65 incl. s&h).
FWIW I also have a set of MDR-V6 headphones and as they sit side by side next to the MDR-7506 (next to me right now) they appear to be made of identical components. Unless they have changed in the last couple of years they are physically identical. I don't know what's different inside but if I blocked the model number you couldn't tell the difference. So, if the 7506 fit fine then the V6 should fit exactly the same.

Google

MDR-V6 vs. MDR-7506 - Google Search

Here are a couple:

Amazon.com: Customer Discussions: MDR7506 vs. MDRV6

Sony MDR-V6 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
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