Oh maybe you shouldn't use that squier neck plate! What if someone thinks it actually a squier? Very deceitful
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Headstock Decal Etiquette
- Thread starter DigitalMan
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Whoa! If this is an aftermarket tattoo, I certainly hope you got permission from donut.
I didn't even know Dewalt made basses! Or is it just a Dewalt neck that some crook slapped on an old pbass body?
I believe the logo is a big part of the design of a guitar, much more than just a status symbol that says, "Hey, look what I own." It's as much a part of the style and customization of a guitar as the paint color or body shape.
Start a thread: Personalized headstock logos... or something...?
,One other thing to consider - No matter how benevolent your intentions are when putting a fake Fender logo on a bass, when you buy such a decal from an unauthorized source, you are aiding and abetting some one committing copyright infringement at best, up to outright fraud. Even if you do this with no intention of defrauding someone down the road, it's too late, you are already enabling those (that make the decals) who help others (those that use the decals to deceive buyers) to commit fraud by making it profitable for them.
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fair enough. i was drawing a parallel to point out perceived 'gray' areas in ethics, and not the op's situation per se. to be clear: i believe our world is not so absolutely black and white, never say never, your mileage may vary, etc.
edit: a 'cordial intellectual discussion', as kael put it. but batmensch makes my point for me more clearly.
It is my understanding that the Fender logo does not meet the test of originality to qualify for copyright protection. It is only covered by trademark for which the standards and restrictions are quite different. I believe this partly explains why Fender logo decals are so readily available.
This is one of the more interesting points made in this thread. Does trademark without copyright mean you can copy it as much as you want, as long as it goes on a genuine Fender? That is assuming that it is truly not protected by copyright or that a trademark logo can legally be copied under any circumstance.
Does anyone seriously think ebay continues to allow the sale of countless Fender decals illegally...especially since they constantly pull fake Rickenbackers off their website time after time after time?
ridiculous response to a ridiculous statement, "I think that if you're putting a Fender decal onto a neck made by another company, then, you are trying to deceive people (including yourself)."
Opinions.
I have a yamaha TRBII6 Before I got it there were neck issues.
The neck was taken off, taken apart, a new neck was made. The dual trussrods, fingerboard and the front of the headstock from the old neck were grafted on to the new neck. The serial number was stamped on the back of the new headstock along with the words 'hand made' and the original headstock was sold along with the bass as proof.
Is this still the same bass?
PS. I have gotten a hell of a lot of likes from two absolutely throw away comments at the beginning of this thread. It's incredible.
I have a yamaha TRBII6 Before I got it there were neck issues.
The neck was taken off, taken apart, a new neck was made. The dual trussrods, fingerboard and the front of the headstock from the old neck were grafted on to the new neck. The serial number was stamped on the back of the new headstock along with the words 'hand made' and the original headstock was sold along with the bass as proof.
Is this still the same bass?
PS. I have gotten a hell of a lot of likes from two absolutely throw away comments at the beginning of this thread. It's incredible.
All I am going to get out of this thread is fender die hards take themselves way too seriously and people who counterfeit basses are aholes....phew saved myself reading 160 posts
Timely thread. I'm doing a parts Strat build. Actually I haven't bought ANY of the parts yet, but going to buy SD P-Rail pickups. After that I haven't decided.
That said, one option is to buy a cheap complete guitar, swap on a Warmoth neck I already have, and add the pickups. The Warmoth neck has no headstock logo - though I have one that does. (no SN or "Made in USA" or other markings though - aside from the actual Warmoth markings on neck end)
Another idea to to get Squier very playable (fret level, dress, complete setup) then paint headstock to match body, then add a vintage style Fender logo. For looks. I'd actually keep the Squier neckplate.
If I ever sold a guitar with a fake label, I'd remove it first. Disclosing it doesn't prevent someone else from getting ripped off down the line.
That said, one option is to buy a cheap complete guitar, swap on a Warmoth neck I already have, and add the pickups. The Warmoth neck has no headstock logo - though I have one that does. (no SN or "Made in USA" or other markings though - aside from the actual Warmoth markings on neck end)
Another idea to to get Squier very playable (fret level, dress, complete setup) then paint headstock to match body, then add a vintage style Fender logo. For looks. I'd actually keep the Squier neckplate.
If I ever sold a guitar with a fake label, I'd remove it first. Disclosing it doesn't prevent someone else from getting ripped off down the line.
Re: someone will eventually get ripped off. If the difference between a multi-hundred dollar bass or a single hundred dollar bass resides in the decal alone I would be astounded. In that way, (not that i agree with misrepresentation, don't misunderstand) it's buyer beware. Thats why everyone here recommends checking a bass out thoroughly before ever buying.
Very good Question. If my car got crashed I still want it to look like it did before, brand logo and all.
I might consider engraving on the inside of the neck heel that it's not the original neck but I'd suspect that a person that really cares about that stuff could tell by sight anyway.
It's your bass and you should do what you want. IMHO
I might consider engraving on the inside of the neck heel that it's not the original neck but I'd suspect that a person that really cares about that stuff could tell by sight anyway.
It's your bass and you should do what you want. IMHO
