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That's kind of what I am looking for.The Mesa sound in the D, D+, and WD is cleaner than an Ampeg but still has the heft. It’s far less scooped then a GK, for lack of a better term the controls are organic. The sweep of each pot isn’t drastic and makes it easy to dial in things, it’s not all or nothing which I rather like.
Thanks!Five Star Guitar is the Mesa dealer in the area, give them a call and see if they currently have one on the floor. They are just off highway 26.
(503) 439-9500
17305 NW Corridor Ct. Suite 100, Beaverton, OR 97006
If you would like to try the Genzler Magellan 800 message me.
I think Ben Jones is using Eich right now. He was using TC. He's local, I'll have to get with him.My bad, Tecamp not revamp.
I'm unsure if they're still in production or not but you can find them in the classifieds from time to time.
The puma 900 is another tecamp amp that people talk about.
Eich-1000 seems brutal as well as the trickfish bullhead 1000 is another clean amp.
When I saw Bobby Vega he was playing through an MTD 5 string. That combo with the techno rig was just so tonally clean, powerful, harmonics just sang and having a stellar player as Bobby was a killer experience.
My d800 is also pretty clean as mentioned above. It sounds very different depending on the cabinet used.
Thanks for the rundown!Include me in the “Talkbass Brethren Are Evil and Piqued My Interest in the WD-800 a year after getting the D800+ and falling in love with it” list...
I’m happy they did... it’s become my #1 for sure... and coming from the old school amps — the 100lb SWR Super Redhead combos and Ampeg/Trace sleds... as well as current owner to the Super Bassman (which sits), I’m not the least bit disappointed, just continue to marvel in amazement each time I flip the switch on the WD.
I had never owned Mesa equipment prior. I did lust for it, but never was able to afford until recently and didn’t understand what their selection offered, so I went with what I was familiar with. When I got my chance and after some great online demos through high end studio monitors (Dumpstaphunk on the D800+ and Subway cabs), I just decided to jump, and haven’t looked back.
A lot of people in my “D800+ Still Satisfies...” thread chimed in about the WD as well. They mentioned the grit and the grind, and that it was different, but that they couldn’t explain really what it was and that I’d just have to try one and find out. You’ve been a cool guy on here brotha, so I hope you get a chance to chk one out locally and that someone on here who lives local to you invites you to their place to run thru one. I did that recently for someone visiting from out of State and while they didn’t hold up to their end of the bargain and bring me any pizza, it was cool to pass on the groove and help them see if it was right for them.
For me, I’m running it set pretty phat, I personally don’t care too much for the HPF (though it does have its place and other guys swear by it), and everything that the D800+ does — the things I loved about that amp — the WD does, albeit with more textures and options... Aside from the major para EQ’s available on tap, I’ve also found that the sag control is amazing to dial-in just the right amount of thump and pop for slap and funk, as well as get it to rip and bounce phat like my Super Bassman, minus about 80lbs. Again, for me personally, it’s everything I love(d) about other amps, available at-hand.
Truth be told, I was afraid I was going to hate it; I bought it sight unseen, from a private seller who was listing it like new in box. I’m glad it was the exact opposite for me. I too like those clean studio style amps you mention, and when I watch other demos, honestly sometimes I get tempted to check them out. Then I plug into this rig and fall in love all over again — finding those tones and plenty more... there are so many onboard options for different tones and scenarios, but it’s user-friendly and not overwhelming.
But that said, everyone has their own taste and for sure man, anytime you buy I’d recommend trying beforehand unless you’re like me... I feel like a good hour on this thing, trying different EQ, HPF, cabs and sag settings will give you an honest idea of what it does.
Me personally, I am able to pull scooped and sculpted slap tones with texture out of it just the same as the mid driven rock and roll and everything in between. Your cabs will obviously also play a big role in what you can find and channel out of this thing brotha... good luck and let us know what you find out and decide!
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+1. I like the Plus version more because of the eq and other bells and whistles. But the 800 is my favorite amp of all time (I’m old, too). It’s got a great flat sound and doesn’t fall into any of the traps redstrand mentioned. I switched from a GK 800 Fusion despite some likable features because I continually fought against the scoop. The only thing I’d appreciate in the Mesa would be the same simple, onboard compression you got on a lot of Edens.Much less scooped than a GK. Way less boomy and bloomy than the Rumbles. The EQ really does allow you to dial pretty much anything you want. Flat is killer, start boosting and cutting and certain basses will really shine. It really loves 12’s imho too. All the heft and volume is there.
... like my Super Bassman, minus about 80lbs...
Include me in the “Talkbass Brethren Are Evil and Piqued My Interest in the WD-800 a year after getting the D800+ and falling in love with it” list...
I’m happy they did... it’s become my #1 for sure... and coming from the old school amps — the 100lb SWR Super Redhead combos and Ampeg/Trace sleds... as well as current owner to the Super Bassman (which sits), I’m not the least bit disappointed, just continue to marvel in amazement each time I flip the switch on the WD.
I had never owned Mesa equipment prior. I did lust for it, but never was able to afford until recently and didn’t understand what their selection offered, so I went with what I was familiar with. When I got my chance and after some great online demos through high end studio monitors (Dumpstaphunk on the D800+ and Subway cabs), I just decided to jump, and haven’t looked back.
A lot of people in my “D800+ Still Satisfies...” thread chimed in about the WD as well. They mentioned the grit and the grind, and that it was different, but that they couldn’t explain really what it was and that I’d just have to try one and find out. You’ve been a cool guy on here brotha, so I hope you get a chance to chk one out locally and that someone on here who lives local to you invites you to their place to run thru one. I did that recently for someone visiting from out of State and while they didn’t hold up to their end of the bargain and bring me any pizza, it was cool to pass on the groove and help them see if it was right for them.
For me, I’m running it set pretty phat, I personally don’t care too much for the HPF (though it does have its place and other guys swear by it), and everything that the D800+ does — the things I loved about that amp — the WD does, albeit with more textures and options... Aside from the major para EQ’s available on tap, I’ve also found that the sag control is amazing to dial-in just the right amount of thump and pop for slap and funk, as well as get it to rip and bounce phat like my Super Bassman, minus about 80lbs. Again, for me personally, it’s everything I love(d) about other amps, available at-hand.
Truth be told, I was afraid I was going to hate it; I bought it sight unseen, from a private seller who was listing it like new in box. I’m glad it was the exact opposite for me. I too like those clean studio style amps you mention, and when I watch other demos, honestly sometimes I get tempted to check them out. Then I plug into this rig and fall in love all over again — finding those tones and plenty more... there are so many onboard options for different tones and scenarios, but it’s user-friendly and not overwhelming.
But that said, everyone has their own taste and for sure man, anytime you buy I’d recommend trying beforehand unless you’re like me... I feel like a good hour on this thing, trying different EQ, HPF, cabs and sag settings will give you an honest idea of what it does.
Me personally, I am able to pull scooped and sculpted slap tones with texture out of it just the same as the mid driven rock and roll and everything in between. Your cabs will obviously also play a big role in what you can find and channel out of this thing brotha... good luck and let us know what you find out and decide!
Sag control=A new POWER AMP DAMPING control, which allows tuning of the power response. The POWER DAMPING choices enable you to tailor the tracking and feel of the power amp. The LOW setting produces a looser, more relaxed and blooming character reminiscent of Tube power. HIGH tightens the low end, adding punch and accuracy in tracking, while MEDIUM provides a blend of these opposite ends of the power response spectrum.sag control?
sag control?
Sag control=A new POWER AMP DAMPING control, which allows tuning of the power response. The POWER DAMPING choices enable you to tailor the tracking and feel of the power amp. The LOW setting produces a looser, more relaxed and blooming character reminiscent of Tube power. HIGH tightens the low end, adding punch and accuracy in tracking, while MEDIUM provides a blend of these opposite ends of the power response spectrum.
At least I think that's it.
I should be there and will bring it.Hope to see you @https://www.talkbass.com/threads/pdx-columbia-gorge-gtg-october-2019.1416213/
You goin' to bring the Magellan out to that?
Yeah, that's probably best to check out in another environment.I should be there and will bring it.
If you would like to try the Genzler in an environment without others banging away and with your cabs let me know and I will meet up with you so you can spend a good hour or so alone with it.
sag control?
Yeah that’s the stuff I was talking about, sorry I should’ve double checked what it’s actually called vs what my brain attached to it’s use.
Thanks guys
He's referring to the power damping feature that allows you to loosen or tighten the interaction between the amp and speakers. One more bit of tone-shaping goodness the WD offers.
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Thanks guys - on reading this I didn't associate SAG with the damping control.
As an owner of a WA I am very interested in the WD800, so I'm reading all I can about it in the threads here.
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