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Help me get a thick Jazz bass tone!

I am chiming in again, I picked up a BDDI for some grit.

The only problem is the scoop but you can compensate if you are plugging the BDDI straight into the amp by boosting mids.
Raising my action just a little bit and lowering the pickups a bit also helped.

I'll probably add series switch to the bass later.
 
Bridge pup @ 7 + Neck pup @ 7 + Tone @ 3 = Maple Syrup

Trust me. ;)

this actually worked for me.. My Fender Jazz, Geddy Lee bass, which has the output of a small Planter's peanut.. actually sings now.. I am so tired of upping all my amps for this bass.. I had thought about getting rid of it.. but anyway, this poster is not alone.. Fender Jazzes, even the USA ones, have a razor thin tone..
 
The problem you are running into is something I have spent a lot of time chasing around and finally came to the conclusion that it is not really correctable with pickups or EQ. You can 'fake' it with EQ, or with a series switch, but you'll still be missing that base sonic information of uber low and strong fundamentals. And that's because that bass never vibrated in that way to begin with.

If you are trying to get a thick, growly sounding jazz instead of a poppy, thin one, it has a lot to do with the specific pieces of woods used for the bass, body thickness, and the neck pocket connection as well. To start with there are 2 different jazz bass body thicknesses out there, 1 5/8 and 1 3/4, go for the thicker one... unfortunately (?) the best thing to do is to start over... go to GC and play all the jazz basses in there unplugged... some will have a lower, more powerful resonant freq than the others, get one of those, put a nice set of pickups in it, and be done with it.

Not all jazz basses sound the same, I find that, possibly because of the pickup layout, Jazz basses tend to be much more different sounding from one to the other than P basses. The jazz pickups tell you more about the wood, so to speak.

I have 2 Jazz basses, one of them is bright, poppy, punchy, etc... really great for power trio kind of setup... it's almost like a baritone guitar. Very rad in that setup, I imagine it would be a jazz/fusion players dream. In a 2 guitar layout, it sonically collides with the deeper voiced guitar, and it can't cut through. Drummers look all confused, they can't make me out.

So I have another jazz bass... and that thing powers through like a freight train. It's like it was raised by P-basses, so it thinks it's a P-bass. Right on the verge of being muddy, but just poppy enough to pull it off. Maybe in a power trio, it's a little too boomy, but when dealing with several guitars, it is awesome.

The nature of the instruments doesn't change much with pickup swaps, I even used the same pickups in both, the truth is, you could tell before plugging them in, what they were about.

So don't throw money at the problem is what I would say... wait it out and find a jazz bass that has the natural properties you are looking for. Even if you improve things with this jazz bass, one that does "it" without any tweaking will always sound better - look for one of those.

Anyway, that's what my dozen or so Jazz basses I have been through have taught me about things. I think it gets a lot more important when there are more instruments, and you need to have your bass sitting in the right place in the mix... that's how I started thinking about this stuff at least. Good luck!


I have been having a bit of a problem with my Jazz bass, the sound is ridiculously thin. I have tried messing with the EQ on my head and it isnt really helping me much, also the tone control helps slightly but doesn't seem to add any low end.

I need a relatively thick bass tone, its not an amp or cab problem (Mesa Buster 200 and tour 410) as my peavey sounds huge and thick through my amp.

I have been thinking of getting an Audere and using that to send a thick signal with the Z mode setting that gives the most bass or getting a set of Dimarzio Model J's and wiring it in Series.

I really can't get another bass right now, I just need to use what I have now.
 
Also, I realize some guys here will roll their eyes at what I am saying because I am talking about the actual wood and construction of the bass, including thick paintjobs... My response to that is when you record a drumkit in a bad room or with bad mics, you can only do so much with plugins and gates, etc... so it goes with a naturally not great sounding bass, and using stompboxes and active preamps, etc.

If you are really into having a nice tone you need to start with the first thing, good tonewood! It all builds up from there. And by good tonewood I don't mean expensive, just that which your ear finds tasty. :)
 
I am responding to the question below; While replacing the tone controls on the 75 Fender Jazz there is a gold plate on the bottom did you remove it or just remove the wires?


This was posted by Nagan60 Post #41:

By the way, if you have a single coil passive jazz bass and like your stock electronics but would rather go active then you might look into the EMG J-set pickups. They come with a active electronics harness but the electronics do not have an eq on it per-say. It has two volumes and a tone roll-off much like a stock passive preamp. I'm installing one into my 1975 Jazz bass and I'm excited about how its going to sound. I had the Audere in there but took it out and I'm going to replace it with the EMG's. Two of my favorite bass players (Alex Al & Maurice Fitzgerald) use them in their jazz basses, and I also have a cousin who has a 72 jazz bass that has EMG's in them that he bought back in 1989 and that bass sounds killer. You just have to use the eq on your bass head.....very simple and not a bunch of fumbling around on your bass to get your sound. Want highs?? Just use the tone control!!! No highs?? Use the tone control....that simple. I was skeptical of EMG's I've always been a fan of Barts because of their clear pristine sound.......but I like to be felt and heard when I play and I believe that the EMG's will do that for me. (Nagan60)
 
I had the same problem when I first got my Jazz bass. It sounded boomy yet thin, and tended to disappear in the mix. Coming to bass from guitar, it took me a while to understand what I was hearing. The issue is not bottom end but lower midrange.

My guess is that there are a lot of players who come from the P side and have trouble with a J-style bass. The P has that great lower-midrange that can sound massive. They want the Jazz to sound like that. They mistake that lower midrange for bottom frequencies and want to boost there. But the J already has plenty of bottom, more than a P bass does. The result is boomy and thin. Out of habit they turn all the knobs up all the way, which scoops the midrange and makes the problem worse.

What worked for me was cutting the low frequencies and boosting the lower midrange on the amp, playing more often with one pickup or the other rather than blending, experimenting with lower settings on the volume and tone knobs, and stringing it up with flats.

Now my Jazz sounds massive and cuts through any mix. It still doesn't sound like a P bass. I have a P bass for that sound. But the Jazz sounds better for 90% of what I do.
 
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