So I'm in the market for a Stingray 4H. I'm on the fence between the much cheaper Ray34, or trying to find a used MM Stingray. Maybe I could get a new one, but this is a graduation present. I don't want to push it, unless I can come up with some cash to help pay for it. I spent an hour in Guitar Center today after my lesson. I had a blast comparing a Honeyburst Ray34 and a Vintage Sunburst Stingray. They were both gorgeous (I'm also a sucker for sunburst finishes) and they both sounded so extremely good. According to the salesmen, the American made Stingrays have better pickups/electronics, but I could not tell the difference. The Ray34 had less buzz, but they were both setup poorly. The MM Stingray was significantly heavier than the Stingray, and I really liked the beefier neck. The extra weight of the body made for zero neck dive, though it wasn't bad on the Ray34. So basically I like the feel of a Musicman over a Sterling, I haven't quite decided if the feel is worth $600 bucks more. The Ray34 was still very nice though. Of course I'm going to feel guilty about this purchase. Today I jammed in my friend's basement and my SX P Bass sounded so extremely good as well... I'm asking for the differences between Musicman Stingrays and Sterling Ray34's. In your opinion is it worth the extra price? I'm a little curious about these Classic Stingrays with 2 band EQ as well, but I want to play the bass that I'm going to buy, and i haven't seen any in stores. I would love to get the Musicman over the Sterling, and I think if I go that route I'm gonna buy used. How much does a used Stingray go for typically? This has been on craigslist for a long time and I'd love to buy it, but $1200 is alot. I hate when people lowball me on craigslist, but $1200 is simply out of my price range, especially for a used instrument. How much should I offer him? http://chicago.craigslist.org/nwc/msg/1676107505.html I'm also wondering how negotiable prices are for new instruments. Amazon.com has both instruments at lower prices, so thats a start. I could try to get them to match or beat amazon.com. How low could I talk them down for a Musicman? What about a Sterling Ray34? Don't tell me to search. I've been searching the classifieds to get ideas on prices, and I've researched the differences between Sterling and Musicmans. There are just so many threads that come up when I search, most of it doesn't help me at all. Thanks for the help!