I tested different combinations of pedals and I like best the HPF at the beginning of the chain, then the preamp, compressor and the LPF at the end. But I going to experiment more
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It seems logical to me that the compressor sits last in the signal chain so that it works on the final signal after all the other boosts and/or effects. If placing the HPF directly before the compressor gives the compressor an easier job then that seems logical too.I tested different combinations of pedals and I like best the HPF at the beginning of the chain, then the preamp, compressor and the LPF at the end. But I going to experiment more
Depends... I like octave pedals after the compressor so that they get a more even tone into them. Putting the HPF in front of the comp can be a good thing if your compressor doesn't have a side chain/HPF built in(not the same thing as a high pass filter pedal), as it will not grab as much due to sub sonic frequencies triggering it. Depends on your setup/equipment, style, band etc. I think its very individual what will work best.
I stumbled upon this just because of convenience...
I have a small little setup for home practice; rumble 40 amp and HPF/LPF via Source Audio EQ2. - I know, I know, an EQ2 is an extravagance for a home practice only setup. I bought it for a different purpose, which didn't work out, so just tried it at home and it worked out...
At any rate, I don't play zingy-synthy stuff much, but do occasionally to entertain myself. Because that's all I do with that, I only have a little zoom pedal for my octave/wah/phase/etc...
It sounds much better ahead of the EQ2 than on the other side of it. - As has been said a bunch already, it's an individual thing, and pretty subjective. I'm just going with the "it works for me"...
I have a small little setup for home practice; rumble 40 amp and HPF/LPF via Source Audio EQ2. - I know, I know, an EQ2 is an extravagance for a home practice only setup. I bought it for a different purpose, which didn't work out, so just tried it at home and it worked out...
At any rate, I don't play zingy-synthy stuff much, but do occasionally to entertain myself. Because that's all I do with that, I only have a little zoom pedal for my octave/wah/phase/etc...
It sounds much better ahead of the EQ2 than on the other side of it. - As has been said a bunch already, it's an individual thing, and pretty subjective. I'm just going with the "it works for me"...
That makes sense too (if I understand you correctly). Do you order them compressor into octaver into HPF into amp?
Most people seem to prefer OD after HPF. I certainly do, in general anyway.
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I meant to say OD after compressor, but the same goes for HPF. Given the three effects, I would typically go from HPF into compressor into OD.
(My edit button already disappeared above, so I guess that post will be staying as is.)
Buy when in stock, which may or may not be as easy as you'd think
https://www.broughtonaudio.com/product-page/messenger-di
I tested different combinations of pedals and I like best the HPF at the beginning of the chain, then the preamp, compressor and the LPF at the end. But I going to experiment more
I'm a little late seeing this. The HPF is a global presence at the front-end of each pedal / FX configuration...I use both the Broughton and Zoom digital sim depending on the mood of the day. The Zoom also has an LPF option...I'll try it at the end of the chain as you've suggested.
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By definition, any DI that includes tone-shaping EQ (like adjustable HPF and LPF) is not considered "neutral."
If the sound guy asks for a "neutral DI" they don't mean a tone-shaping preamp like the Broughton Messenger. They mean a Radial, Countryman, Neve, etc. that does not have EQ.
The first thing that comes to my mind would be a Zoom multi-fx pedal for the HPF, but most don't have a built in DI, so you could combine that with something like a Behringer DI. I've had several Zoom pedals, and out of all of them the B1 Four is the most user friendly (in general and for the HPF specifically). I also have a Behringer DI400p--mostly as a backup since I typically use the built in DI on the amp or on another pedal--that is really very good. I measured the frequency response on the Behringer DI and found it to be totally flat.
New, I think you'd be looking at $100ish for a B1Four + $30ish for a DI400p, but you get all the other amazing benefits of the zoom multi-fx.
*Many of the Zoom pedals don't have a dedicated HPF effect, so you have to make do with paremetric EQ or sometimes an amp/preamp model. The MS60B for example, has a copy of the old Fishman Platinum Pro EQ that has an HPF (labelled as "depth" iirc), but it's quite cumbersome to adjust on the gig. The B1 Four, on the other hand, has dedicated HPF and LPF that are easy to adjust on the fly.
Just realized that you also have a couple of options from Fishman. The old Pro EQ Platinum Bass (now discontinued) has a DI, adjustable HPF, 5 band EQ, and a compressor. I bought one on eBay recently got $51. Has a very long battery life and can run on phantom power too I think. The compressor is surprisingly useful for a 1-knob compressor.
There's also the Fishman Platinum Stage, but it only has 40, 80, and 160 hz settings for the HPF and costs $170.
There's also the Fishman Platinum Stage, but it only has 40, 80, and 160 hz settings for the HPF and costs $170.
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This seems to be an awesome option.
VONG-Filterung – Schalltechnik_04 is an option too, but it's a DIY kit and comes from Germany, don't know the shipping costs, but you can ask directly to the builder/seller here at TB HPF/LPF list- which do you use or know about? . It's the one that I use.
Thanks for all the responses, everyone! I actually have an old Zoom CDR I could probably match with a simple Behringer D.I. if I download and install the models with the software floating around. But I’ve gotta say that Musikding kit is actually exactly what I’m looking for and I will probably ask a couple of mates how they would feel about building one. I like to have a dedicated LPF which I can adjust with my drives.
Sorry everybody I need to bump-a-ruski this thread for some clarification... I need help dialing out shrill fret noise/clacking that I get from the presence nob on my Sansamp BDDI v2. Will a LPF fully remove the frequencies that make this thing clack too much? Or will it just soften it and still produce some clack?
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Roots and fifths and a little extra.
I don't know for sure, but it sounds to me like going around the block just to get next door. Why not just turn the presence knob down? Also, what might be really distracting when you're practicing alone might not be noticeable at all in a live mix.
