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How do you deal with this? (Subwoofers)

Are subs really necessary at small venues?


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Subs are necessary at a small venue because they aren't making money from bands like yours who play 1 night a week. They are making money selling drinks on their DJed dance nights(EDM, Hip Hop etc) every other night of the week who's visitors only like the place if they can "feel the bass". Their sub system isn't there to please audiophiles, musicians or professionals, it's to get drunk girls to dance and desperate dudes to buy them drinks.
 
I'm an engineer and I'll blame the engineer. Run the subs on an aux and control everything going to it, not just chained from the LR. That and tuning the system to the room will go a long way.

On another note, you were probably in a corner where bass builds up and he was probably mixing from the opposite corner, where it was cancelling out from across the room.

There's always two sides to everything.
 
Another thing that can really fork up the stage sound is to have the bass in the monitors full-range - they really need to be HPF'd at 100Hz or so. In a difficult situation like this I run no conventional on-stage amp - just my own floor monitor with just the HPF'd bass in it fed right off my pedalboard. That's in addition to the venue's monitors. Sucks you can't run your awesome rig on a stage in a venue with subs but that's the sad state of affairs these days :( .
 
I've since spoken with several other local musicians who played there and everyone I spoke to had trouble getting a workable stage sound. It seems the problem is either with the venue, the sound system, or the sound guy.
The stage is indeed in the corner of the room, which likely contribute s to the bass buildup.
 
Apparently it did sound good out front.

See if the house mixer and/or the venue will consider alternate placement of the subs. I think that if enough musicians that perform in the room POLITELY make their feelings known, then you may see some action. Enlist others to make the same request, or form an email chain with other bands that terminates with a final destination @ the venue and house sound mixer. Also, offer your services to assist with any physical labor and testing if needed.

etc.
 
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