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How do you feel about body modification?

I dont know about how fast tats deteriorate, my father has had a couple for a long time, and has one thats easily 30 years old and hasnt deteriorated to the point of ugliness.
It depends on a lot of things, the main one being keeping it out of the sun. But what's the point of getting all these bitchin' sleeve outs if you can't impress the other kids, right? :rolleyes:

When I was studying (yes, studying) tattoos, one of the first things that hit me was that the only people in the world who were doing tattoos correctly were the Japanese, as they realized that tattoos simply won't keep detail as the skin is essentially a very slow-moving fluid. The more detail and the more skin sloughing, the quicker the tattoo turns to a nasty smudge. The Japanese deal with this by creating large tattoos with very little detail, and they virtually never expose them outdoors.

One friend of mine was twenty-two when he got a bunch of detailed tattoos on his forearms. By the time he unexpectedly died three years later, his tattoos were totally illegible smudges.

Another thing the Japanese believe, apparently with some clinical evidence, is that tattoos over a significant area of the body tend to somehow reduce lifespan by a few years as they apparently inhibit the skin's ability to perform its organic functions (the skin is the body's largest organ, remember).
 
I knew a chick who was into suspension. She had 30 some odd piercings up and down her ears and in various other places. The tip of her tongue was split (intentionally) like a snake. She was friends with sword swallowers and fire breathers and glass eaters. She was a nice girl, but definitely a little crazy in the head.
 
... there's a history of mental health problem s that she's being treated for, but I think her mom has the same anxiety and depression and deals with it by being in constant denial that something may be wrong. She's being treated (150 mg of Xanax) but I don't think it's an effective treatment and still causing problems. What i'm trying to get to is that she has anxiety that translates to weird things including very low self-esteem. I often wonder if some of the modification is a result of that low self-esteem, but she has a history of self mutilation that thankfully is over. I'm worried some of it is an extension of that ...

Scarring is one she's interested in and involves cutting or irritating the skin to get it to scar in a tattoo like manner. Interesting, but I hate the thought of her doing that to her skin. And the idea that a large, patterned mass of pink damaged flesh is more appealing to her than yourself.

Suspension involves being pierced and then inserting rings into your body and lifting you up from the rings. She wants to do it with meat hooks instead, and that thought literally makes me nauseous. She's shown me pictures, and the amount of blood on the ground is atrocious. The people who do it say they do it for the adrenaline rush of feeling like you're floating... what's wrong with the indoor skydiving areas where you can actually float? does the meathook make the experience?

Look, this isn't about simple piercings or tattoos. In the larger picture, they are essentially irrelevant (as are my opinions regarding the practice in general). She is mentally ill. And no, I'm not saying all people who do these things are mentally ill. I'm saying she is.

It's not a case where you would just accept some body adornment on her. She is interested in serious, scarring, mutilation. It's very clear that you hate the idea, whether you admit it or not. You love the way her body looks now. Well, love it now, because it's not going to stay that way.

This relationship is doomed, and the sooner you end it, the less pain you will experience. The situation is not going to improve. You are not going to be able to change her intentions, and you will become increasingly disenchanted with her. It's a bad ending now, or a horrible ending later.

Sorry.
 
MatticusMania said:
I knew a chick who was into suspension. She had 30 some odd piercings up and down her ears and in various other places. The tip of her tongue was split (intentionally) like a snake. She was friends with sword swallowers and fire breathers and glass eaters. She was a nice girl, but definitely a little crazy in the head.

She likes some of that but wouldn't do it. Like tongue splitting. apparently guys do that in other, more unfortunate places. One guy had the head of his manhood split and it was tattooed like a dragon....
 
Munjibunga said:
Look, this isn't about simple piercings or tattoos. In the larger picture, they are essentially irrelevant (as are my opinions regarding the practice in general). She is mentally ill. And no, I'm not saying all people who do these things are mentally ill. I'm saying she is.

It's not a case where you would just accept some body adornment on her. She is interested in serious, scarring, mutilation. It's very clear that you hate the idea, whether you admit it or not. You love the way her body looks now. Well, love it now, because it's not going to stay that way.

This relationship is doomed, and the sooner you end it, the less pain you will experience. The situation is not going to improve. You are not going to be able to change her intentions, and you will become increasingly disenchanted with her. It's a bad ending now, or a horrible ending later.

Sorry.

Because we should just give up on the mentally ill? I suppose I need to get the word out so my friend can lock up his autistic sister...
 
I've heard this several times in this thread, and for every one I hear, multiple people invalidate it. That's not like TB. What's everyone's problem with her?

I'm in the "to each their own category." That being said, if my girlfriend went out and got multiple piercings and a sleeve of tats, then she would get dumped. I can handle tramp stamps, ankle tats, etc, and a few piercings such as naval, ears, and a Monroe, but for me, the less the better. I wouldn't find her attractive anymore, and I want to be with someone I'm attracted too, both physically and mentally.
 
Anyways, this isn't a thread about my relationship, it's about body modification. All of it. Piercings, tattoos, scars, suspension, enlargement, stretching, splitting, whatever:

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Because we should just give up on the mentally ill? I suppose I need to get the word out so my friend can lock up his autistic sister...

Hey, it's your life. If you choose to marry (or even be a boyfriend to) someone with problems this deep, just be prepared to deal with them permanently. You are under no moral obligation to subject yourself to a life with someone who was a stranger to you x months or years ago and has serious mental problems. You will not be her saviour, and she will be a major burden to you until your inevitable divorce and thereafter under even less desireable conditions. If that's what you want (and it's starting to seem like it is), I say go for it.

It's clear you're not open to rational thought about her. Start thinking with your head.

Also, your friend had no choice in having an autistic sister. You are filling a perverse need in yourself by trying to validate a doomed relationship with someone with whom you are completely incompatible.
 
I'm in the "to each their own category." That being said, if my girlfriend went out and got multiple piercings and a sleeve of tats, then she would get dumped. I can handle tramp stamps, ankle tats, etc, and a few piercings such as naval, ears, and a Monroe, but for me, the less the better. I wouldn't find her attractive anymore, and I want to be with someone I'm attracted too, both physically and mentally.

Wow. That's shallow. Me too.
 
Hey, it's your life. If you choose to marry (or even be a boyfriend to) someone with problems this deep, just be prepared to deal with them permanently. You are under no moral obligation to subject yourself to a life with someone who was a stranger to you x months or years ago and has serious mental problems. You will not be her saviour, and she will be a major burden to you until your inevitable divorce and thereafter under even less desireable conditions. If that's what you want (and it's starting to seem like it is), I say go for it.

It's clear you're not open to rational thought about her. Start thinking with your head.

It seems you're just on a tirade. Maybe to feel justified. Maybe you're so big on these forums you feel you have a presence to keep up. Not really sure. You saw she was a little weird and instantly discounted her as a person. I dunno about anyone else here, but that's what sounds like closed-mindedness to me. She has legitimate mental health problems. She'll receive proper treatment for them when she can bring them up to a real psychiatrist and not a family doctor whose idea of help is to constantly up her Xanax dose. Furthermore, you had no obligation to even make a comment regarding that. Try insulting any other man's girl and see how it goes over.

I came on here asking a legitimate question about how people felt about body modification... I know there's even a church for it. I wanted people experienced on both spectrums. Instead, you decided to comment on my "crazy" girlfriend. Not only does your lack of maturity disappoint me, it seems you're just trying to make a name as resident @$$hole. And obviously you either don't care about the many ways things would go or have so much confidence in yourself that you're willing to say that the way you just pointed out is the way it'll so obviously happen. Or maybe you just don't think I'll call you out on it because I'm a 16 year old incapable of rational thought.



This is not a thread for relationship device. This is not a thread about mental disorders. This is not a thread about women or associated memes. I had high hopes for this thread, and it quickly dropped to de-railing and even personal attacks. Please keep it back on track. Or at least drop it if you're not interested in the subject... I heard some very legitimate opinions...
 

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