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How good do you think you are?
- Thread starter DBCrocky
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bluewine said:
The last band I made money in was with Glen Sobel (Alice Cooper) on drums and Alejandro Garcia (Shakira, Julio Iglesias) on guitar. I'm 21, btw. I'm hoping to get another gig like that sometime soon!
I'm alright but I think I got lucky. I've pretty much be coasting on natural abilities for a few years now.
If by "successful" you mean, "accomplished as a musician", then yes.
Not really. As long as they know I don't suck.
Only to myself.
By how well I can play the music I enjoy listening to.
I haven't the slightest clue. I don't think others really think about my musical success.
Not really. I'm just here for the lolz at this point.
ROFL! HELLZ NAW! But it's fun to get recognized in and chat it up with other TBers in the real world.
Absolutely. And with good reason too.
I'd say so
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Itzayana said:
Please send a blank check payable to:
Hobo Bob
The Bench in the Park
Santa Monica, CA 55555
- Dec 12, 2007
- 2,268
- 43
- Disclosures
- Endorsing Artist: Zon Guitars, Tsunami Cables, DR Strings, GK
playing bass makes me happy, sometimes it makes others happy too. I'm not worried about much else.
The definition of success?
- Of course!
- Depends if I want to play with them or not
- Not at all.
- By my level of satisfaction
- By my experience ... who I played with, where
- TB? Nah, it's the internet, man!
- Ditto
- Ditto
the yeti said:sure, why not? doesn't impact me in any possible way. i did include "" which means (in context) "i'm not really jealous". i was simultaneously making fun of my on stated yardstick(which i've been thinking about a lot in the past 15 hrs and may be seriously misguided) and at the dude who is POSSIBLY so insecure he needs to share bank account figures on the internet. but i was being subtle (cos i don't like to be rude).
plus i genuinely don't care how much money dude has. unless i'm about to get some of it.
Hmmm, you must not be from Jersey. I thought I was being subtle.
How good am I? Not particularly, enough to get serious GAS though. Heck you can be any success level and you still deserve another bass!!!!!
Why would anyone keep large sums in their CHECKING account? People, I'm in Finance, and I advise you not to do this.
How good do I think I am? At WHAT?
Playing bass? I'm the best bass player in the world for the songs I'm playing; I play them correctly. If you put me in as Stanley Clarke's fill-in, I would be booed off the stage.
Singing? I'm better than a world class singer (Bob Dylan,) and not as good as some guy we've never heard of, singing in his basement.
Performing? My back gets sore, and I get tired, and so I stop jumping around as much, and everyone says that's a good thing, because they weren't that thrilled with my jumping around.
Harmonica? I was told by a celebrated blues player (who shall remain nameless,) that I am "no harp player." So I always remember that when I play harp.
Guitar? I think I suck. I mean S-U-C-K SUCK. And yet I continue to do it.
Insanity? Me think me might be REAL good, but me disagree with I.
Lover? The best, baby; the BEST.
How good do I think I am? At WHAT?
Playing bass? I'm the best bass player in the world for the songs I'm playing; I play them correctly. If you put me in as Stanley Clarke's fill-in, I would be booed off the stage.
Singing? I'm better than a world class singer (Bob Dylan,) and not as good as some guy we've never heard of, singing in his basement.
Performing? My back gets sore, and I get tired, and so I stop jumping around as much, and everyone says that's a good thing, because they weren't that thrilled with my jumping around.
Harmonica? I was told by a celebrated blues player (who shall remain nameless,) that I am "no harp player." So I always remember that when I play harp.
Guitar? I think I suck. I mean S-U-C-K SUCK. And yet I continue to do it.
Insanity? Me think me might be REAL good, but me disagree with I.
Lover? The best, baby; the BEST.
Hmmm, you must not be from Jersey. I thought I was being subtle.
you subtle? where's the fun in that?
ps-http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZTIsbsYmVE
mellowinman said:
I like where your heads at. It's all relative.
I have a show this afternoon , outside, it's 98 degrees. I hope I can play well and deal with the heat.
Wish I could break my no shorts rule, but I'm not wearing boots, low top converses no laces no socks.
Blue
I have long been of the opinion that as long as I'm getting paid to play, it doesn't matter whether I think I'm any good or anyone else thinks I'm any good. (We've established what I am, we're just haggling over the price )
In my world, anyway, it has turned out to be a good idea to put my ego in my pocket when I go out on a gig. If I find myself thinking (rightly or wrongly) that I'm being taken for granted, I just think of Gary Tallent's line, I can't quote it exactly, but it's something like "Nobody says anything about what I'm doing until I stop doing it."
I come to TB to learn, and TB has been very good to me on that score!
PS: There is one thing...In my old age I have lost patience with drunks who want to tell me how great I am. I know I'm supposed to be nice to the people who say nice things, no matter what condition they're in, but you know, enough already.
)In my world, anyway, it has turned out to be a good idea to put my ego in my pocket when I go out on a gig. If I find myself thinking (rightly or wrongly) that I'm being taken for granted, I just think of Gary Tallent's line, I can't quote it exactly, but it's something like "Nobody says anything about what I'm doing until I stop doing it."
I come to TB to learn, and TB has been very good to me on that score!
PS: There is one thing...In my old age I have lost patience with drunks who want to tell me how great I am. I know I'm supposed to be nice to the people who say nice things, no matter what condition they're in, but you know, enough already.
I think that being a musician that actually gets up on a stage, in front of people, is a little similar to being an MMA fighter(a prime example). YOU HAVE TO BE CONFIDENT IN YOUR SKILLS. If not, your're gonna go out there and get slayed.
IMO, part of being a COMPLETE PLAYER is having a type of confidence that's, I guess you could describe as almost "borderline cocky". There's a very, very fine line between confidence, and cockiness. It's also a line that takes Y-E-A-R-S to find. Some people cross it, some don't. And for me? I MUCH PREFER not to be around the ones that cross that line!! Yeah, I'm mostly referring to all you singers and guitarists. You know who you are. Lol
IMO, part of being a COMPLETE PLAYER is having a type of confidence that's, I guess you could describe as almost "borderline cocky". There's a very, very fine line between confidence, and cockiness. It's also a line that takes Y-E-A-R-S to find. Some people cross it, some don't. And for me? I MUCH PREFER not to be around the ones that cross that line!! Yeah, I'm mostly referring to all you singers and guitarists. You know who you are. Lol
I think I am a really good at rock improvisation, in the vein of John Entwistle and Dave Schools. I think I am good at writing bass parts and contributing to arrangements in the context of an originals band. I think I am a good choice for some projects and a bad choice for many others.
I think the true meaning of good self esteem is the belief that you are no better and no worse than everybody else.
Edit: I just checked my checking account and it currently has $1613.39
This is why I feel music careers are almost sad.
A performer on the upper fringes of success, after a lifetime of work and luck, pulls in about as much as a sorority-bred Verizon store manager. With twice the workload and no benefits. And feels it is so wonderful that it is to be bragged about.
The work required to make it in this industry compared to the potential payoff makes the lotto look like a sound business plan.
So in all ... I don't think I'm the right musician for a place like this, every day I'm remember why.
... as a bass/player musician? - Good enough
Is it important to you to feel successful? - *Yes
Is it important to you that your peers see you as successful? - No
Do you have something to prove? - No
How do you measure your own success? - In inches
How do you think others measure your success in their minds? - Don't care
Do you think of TB as a place where you can compare yourself against others and measure your success? - Not a competition
Do you think your own sense of status on TB translates to status in the real world? - No
Do you think people on TB look up to other TBers they see as successful? - Yes
Is it important to you to feel successful? - *Yes
Is it important to you that your peers see you as successful? - No
Do you have something to prove? - No
How do you measure your own success? - In inches
How do you think others measure your success in their minds? - Don't care
Do you think of TB as a place where you can compare yourself against others and measure your success? - Not a competition
Do you think your own sense of status on TB translates to status in the real world? - No
Do you think people on TB look up to other TBers they see as successful? - Yes
bluewine said:
I'm working on it, but getting pros to like you enough to want to refer you to their friends is tough. You can woodshed all you want, but that won't help your people skills.
