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How important is expensive gear? (from SMG)

#121
Big Hoss said:
Interesting... I have a similar compliment count on my "sound" from audience members, except they were guitarists. Both times were sub gigs, and although I never drink when practicing or just jamming with friends, I put down a couple (literally 2) tequila shooters each time just to calm a bit of pre show jitters.
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I tend to have a couple of strong coffees to make sure I'm awake!
 
#122
DwaynieAD said:
So metal musicians are incompetent? Haha you're really charting new territory with that line of thinking
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I didn't say that, and I don't think it. This dude we are talking about said it about metal bassists (that they are just the worst guitarist, that they are the ruiners of music, etc). I do play metal on guitar and personally I think it takes a great deal of competence to play metal on bass or guitar.
 
#124
GBassNorth said:
...expensive gear isn't important says the YouTube douschebag with $10,000 worth of gear sitting next to him to record a 5 minute YouTube rant.

Right or wrong, I buy and play what I buy and play because I like it. Yes, it really is that simple.
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He does say in the video that it's important to have the best gear you can get when recording in the studio...and that is his studio...so that makes sense.
 
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#125
Neon Blues said:
I think the funniest thing is the fact the video is designed to get hits and regardless of the negative comments about him being a douche and people getting defensive.

You all watched it, are talking about and getting others to watch it and has been the top trending thread all week.

I'd say Mission Accomplished.
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Yeah, well anyone can get hits by being a douche and insulting a large group of people. I'd be more impressed if he bought me lunch :D
 
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#128
Things I have learned...

1) You don't need expensive gear to sound good. This is said all the time on TB, but this guy gets slagged off for saying it.

2) Tha audience mostly don't care about the logo on your gear. This is said all the time on TB, but this guy gets slagged off for saying it.

3) Bass players are failed guitarists who ended up on bass by default. This is said all the time on TB, but this guy gets slagged off for saying it.

4) Bass is really the driving force of a band, and in the midst of chaos, the other musicians follow "the reliable one"? This is said all the time on TB, but this guy gets slagged off for saying it.

5) You should really know the song and how to play it before you go into the studio. This is said all the time on TB, but this guy gets slagged off for saying it.

6) You ought to work on your stagecraft and engage with the audience. This is said all the time on TB, but this guy gets slagged off for saying it.

7) You should learn you instrument and improve your technique. This is said all the time on TB, but this guy gets slagged off for saying it.

8) TB is full of people who really get defensive about spending money on their gear. At no point did he say not to buy expensive gear, he said it wasn't a priority, because the audience really doesn't care.

How can so many of you miss the point like that?
 
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#130
JimmyM said:
People don't care for pompous yahoos yelling at the listeners like they're idiots. This guy gets slagged for doing it.

Talk about missing the point!
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I get the point that being shouty and foul mouthed is going to alienate a lot of people, but it seems like a whole lot of folks here took what he was saying personally.

You said that you buy your gear for yourself, not your audience, which is exactly the advice he was giving to young players.

Just because you don't like him doesn't mean he's wrong.
 
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#131
Imaginary Pony said:
Things I have learned...
3) Bass players are failed guitarists who ended up on bass by default. This is said all the time on TB, but this guy gets slagged off for saying it.
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I've been here 5 years; I have never seen this said in all this time, or certainly don't recall it.

I played percussion in the school orchestra, sang in the choir, took up bass rather later then later still started strumming a guitar, mostly because writing songs with just bass is difficult.
 
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#132
JimmyM said:
People don't care for pompous yahoos yelling at the listeners like they're idiots. This guy gets slagged for doing it.

Talk about missing the point!
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Indeed. If someone calm and rational (e.g. Scott Devine, who is also on youtube a lot) said these things (apart from the failed guitarist thing) then it would be accepted because of the lack of expletive-laden shouting.
 
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#133
-Asdfgh- said:
I've been here 5 years; I have never seen this said in all this time, or certainly don't recall it.

I played percussion in the school orchestra, sang in the choir, took up bass rather later then later still started strumming a guitar, mostly because writing songs with just bass is difficult.
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I've seen it said a lot of times, mostly in jest, which is how he said it.

There are several threads where the theme is "why did you start on bass" and some of the stock answers are "because there's only four strings" "it's easier than guitar" or something like that. It's light relief and self deprecating humour, like the jokes about bassists not getting the chicks.
 
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#134
Imaginary Pony said:
I get the point that being shouty and foul mouthed is going to alienate a lot of people, but it seems like a whole lot of folks here took what he was saying personally.

You said that you buy your gear for yourself, not your audience, which is exactly the advice he was giving to young players.

Just because you don't like him doesn't mean he's wrong.
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There's a old saying I learned here in the south, "toss a brick in pack of dawgs, and the one that got hit will yell". It really seems like the guy in the video challenged some peoples egos. The ego can not take corrective criticism or advice without putting in one's mind feelings of personal attack. Notice, the word that keeps coming up, "but"? And it keeps coming up after the word(s) true, truth, point(s). My Uncle Bobby told me when I was teenager, "A man don't get mad at the truth!", "he just accepts it and see's IF he needs to make a change". I'm glad he taught me that.
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-Asdfgh- said:
I've been here 5 years; I have never seen this said in all this time, or certainly don't recall it.

I played percussion in the school orchestra, sang in the choir, took up bass rather later then later still started strumming a guitar, mostly because writing songs with just bass is difficult.
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I've also seen it a lot. I'll admit that I read talkbass for years before I actually joined. But I will say that the saying humored me because I'm finding out more and more that some of these top worshiped bassist started out on guitar. And that helped shape their musical vision and approach. That why I say check a person's history and you can understand his present.
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