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How Obese is Your Country?
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I might be getting a bit over-the-top too. The BMI's conception of "overweight" can certainly apply to athletic people in the way you describe. I'm mainly reacting to the athletic guys who say they'd look like bean poles if they met BMI suggestions for "normal" weight and those that imply you'd automatically be in the "obese" category if you were enthusiastic about weight lifting.
It's an issue I like to explore because I've always been both overweight and a "fast-twitch" bulky kind of athlete. My opinion on how much the two overlap has shifted a lot over the years and I like to bounce that off of other thoughtful people.
Plant me firmly in the BMI is ridiculous camp. At 6'2" & 215lbs I'm "overweight" right? Right... and "normal" is 150-190? I was a beanpole in high school at 6'2" 175lbs. Wouldn't want to be that size again even if I could get there. 190lbs though... Maybe, but I think 200lbs is about "right" for me.
Yeah, there are definitely growing numbers of people here desiring to eat more healthily.
I really thought the UK would be higher than that. Maybe it's just up in the north when food is only worth eating if its battered or cheesy. Or battered cheese.
5'6" ideal weight is 143lbs.. when i weighed 180 i had muscle definition. I needed to lose 37 more lbs? no thank you.
One can have great fitness, ultra-low body fat percentage... and still be overweight.
Think of an overloaded bridge... it doesn't matter WHAT the load is (fat or muscle), overloading is detrimental to certain body systems.
That analogy isn't good. You suppose there's a "generic amount of mass" associated to an overload. But a bridge built with 2' wide metal beams will hold way more mass than one with 6" wide wooden beams (ceteris paribus).
This. I weighed 155 last year and my doctor said I was overweight according to the BMI. However, he knew I played rugby so he brought out the body fat clamps and did it that way; wouldn't ya know it, I'm perfectly healthy.
If you don't exercise then BMI is a good indicator. Of course, if you don't exercise you shouldn't need a number to tell you you need to start. Just my 2c
Statistically there is.
Yes, and a 6' 190lb person will have a lower BMI than a 5' 190lb person.
In the analogy height is (statistically) similar to bridge construction method - if you're taller (a stronger bridge) you can handle more weight.
Say you make 1,000 clones of yourself. All clones are genetically identical. All clones eat the same diet except for calorie load. All clones maintain the same level of fitness. All clones have the same body fat percentage.
Group A (500 clones) has a BMI of 20.
Group B (500 clones) has a BMI of 30.
Do you think there will be a statistically significant difference in health outcomes and life spans between the two groups?
If yes, which groups will have better health outcomes and lifespan?
You're changing your approach in this post. My first retort was basically just to say muscle weight =/= fat weight.
Yes - and your retort was in response to a post that made that point that excess weight is unhealthy, no matter the composition.
Muscle weight is better than fat weight - but excessive weight, no matter what the composition is sub optimal.
Give it a bone.
I'm to outwards appearances lean but still I have a lot of fat on me, about 15lb fairly evenly distributed, stealth fatso or anorexic?
I'm to outwards appearances lean but still I have a lot of fat on me, about 15lb fairly evenly distributed, stealth fatso or anorexic?
